[0:23] Are they counting that a lock on the viewer’s one and all i need the one.
Thank you whoever you are at three on my as well so i guess that’s for the welcome thank you for meeting us here today on my name is peter tasty this is episode two,
a happy warrior i’m here with my pal and producer robert mailing.
Over there he’s ski at eight pm to put on extra hat today because we are live streaming this just like all the cool kids in town seem to do these days today i have with us the.
Exciting mr.
Snow start state senator state senator correct that is a century but also is it a minute i try to keep things exciting i see i don’t know where the space center if you if.
And that’s appropriate and politicians okay.
I believe it’s a few are like steakhouse i no idea what colour on thursday congressmen state representative okay great blahnik or i guess i think you for taking your time to be here with us today.
Pleasure to be here as this is people can see this but this is a high powered studio i think is i think it’s very very impressive,
yeah i like it that all kinds your we’ve had mayor’s here we had the counselors if politicians we’ve had can me and magicians and comic book artists and.

[1:58] All kinds of interesting people perfect.
So some of you may be familiar with neil for good and bad idea i think he’s rather nice,
i fell at least as a person will have to see we agree with his politics told or not but i think neil as the as a person’s very nice are you at the forum,
last month we you was you and shantel crabs who is on the also running so you’re running for.
Thing the gop nomination spot to run for us house that’s correct in the republican primary june fifth.
And so anybody can re register right now if there’s independence or democrats,
still have to re register as a republican vote for me national have quite a groundswell of people in do that no i hope i hope people are paying attention so far that we get people to go and pay attention,
he said he couldn’t hear primers we just came out on april tenth at the lowest voter turnout here in sioux falls in twenty five years,
so i i know very personally the value of,
people coming and going and paying attention no but i was to say about four am yeah i thought you were fine you did great.
Afterwards they let you know the usually let the candidates speak to the people of you want and you are very genuine with me and you didn’t answer my questions i had.

[3:29] I was very impressed so that i could i mean as i don’t know if shantel crabs that well so.
Take it with a grain large chris off she wasn’t as willing to.
Engage in discussion and questions is very much on the ball under are talking points and verbiage.

[3:49] But you were very open with me and i was very impressed i thought that the person you’re putting for a was way different than anything i’ve read about you,
and so i don’t know what i’m so she may be just may be the your voice pack and head maybe neil be willing to come on my friends podcast which eventually turned into.
Despite my a yeah i’m not a politician i’m just concerned citizen business owner and.
Can a christian conservative i’m concerned about the direction of our country i do happen to follow politics but i don’t use talking quayside i basically.
Tell people what i think i think people are ready for that whether they agree or disagree i think that we have to have a dialogue these days as opposed.
Opposed to using talking points and doesn’t help anybody yeah i guess.
I guess i would say this week was kind of weird one for me but in was helping a friend tom the who is running again.
For reelection first a house and he was actually handing out tapioca cards business cards and he was knocking doors so i inadvertently get help you,
oh nice not not on for this is in that he thought you were to use the thought of the three that you are the best so i would say that take is high praise from tom but in terms of.
Trans is also not a politician no he he’s he’s a concerned citizen that was to try to change some things that.

[5:26] Are really askew in in the legal system the no tom toms really big on when the issue of shared parenting if you ask tom what he is about device top of that it,
but alright have many.
Set we i tried so we were playing this together we wanna do this be open and forthright and honest and robert always does this normally he treats people very well miss podcasts i’ve tried.
And usually on it to i run for local office twice lost twice but i can understand the value of weird we’re in the interview that your taken seriously.
And you’re treated fairly know you known ones to i know it’s kinda signed watching fox news are missing b c did watch talking heads yell at each other apparently.
Past one another but me in real life that’s no fun whatsoever and i’m not really sure it’s all the constructive so what,
what interview we’d be provided mr tapioca with the basically and outline the questions we’re playing gas for may ask of a,
this is a conservative leaning podcast so this is this is coming from a conservative journalist and his producer.
So those were watching bb more how journalistic lee inclined in their friends that they are guesser kalo i just know that’s where we’re coming from in this out of.

[6:58] So do.
I should probably of open this but new is infamous on the internet that is a special thing in the alot of people try the infamous on the internet that’s their goal there like a new tv and nobody are no one i can be.
I don’t know if that means anything to but there’s some people out there that would love it and so you came out i think i first heard you.
What was back in december when the in and outs with no lutheran social services i put out this thing about inter faith day and there was article payroll just put this out.
It says here that article i have for example i thought this was kinda colorful was from the daily beast six said hear me that bigoted many trumpets south dakota it talks about in here but if you want to be successful in.
Gop politics in south korea that you have to be as anti muslim as you can be the go off later in here they call you that will prime chains of nt muslim hate.
I think it goes on from there i thought it’s kinda funny i read this winter and another one for daily quotes that stick out.

[8:12] Set it’s pretty excited our new firey do five not use i don’t know if it how i emotionally feel about that but it’s almost if it was me i don’t miss fire and on our that i listed.

[8:25] So much you after eight after that came out is without a press release thanking them for their endorsement.
As well as argus leader and having daily coast picked it up and.

[8:39] Where is the day because like i think is close hose if i find the answer yes so no just the interface.
You are one of the issues that i am very concerned about is islamic terrorism.
And maybe my friends are in the military have one friend that’s nineteen years the military spent for five years of his life over in the middle east and we keep fighting an endless war on terror.
And i’m pretty concerned about that i don’t see an end in sight.
And if you’re going to ask people to go and give their lives for their lives in up for a war you should clearly define who your enemy is.
And then clearly defined your objectives and how you plan on winning the war otherwise what ends up happening is you’re seventeen years in dual will.
There were no closer than that when we started were actually further away in that,
yeah the concern no i hear you i think that there is no bob that’s what i don’t get most about these articles particular from the far left is actually on on.
This issue the actual shit hole lot to grab onto it do it i don’t think they’re they’re willing to engage intellectually the.
To talk about because you’re saying that we’re been in this endless war or been this for long enough so now it’s it’s time to leave i remember back when president obama,
rain the first time that was that was the strong monterey let’s get out of the war and and that you see that still.

[10:11] And i’m on both sides dial i think lol libertarians do i know people on the left off of bringing up,
i mean so i was i was kinda surprised when you talked about that the form that you know that is something that actually might be able to find agreement and i think we’re everything in this,
later out more about and why are there particular frustrations with you so let’s talk about.
Your background is clear that let’s do a quick biography of the man is not happy rn well i’m just.
Primarily i’m a small business owner and entrepreneur and my entire family on both sides of my mom and my father’s side.
Are small business people self employed people in my dad was a lutheran minister and i’ve he was part time so he full time job selling a cultural feed and seed corn.
And on the also a pastor the church of about a hundred people and so you work a year ninety hours a week and as a part of his responsibility of giving back.
As well as many of my relatives are just strong believers in.
The american dream the american way of life that my dad grew up in a home with eleven kids in basically a three room house and complete abject poverty.
And out of that team of very successful next generation of people that it wasn’t easy.

[11:43] But they they work hard and the sacrifice they lived with rested.
Sometimes it drove us apart of a wall having to live under the such type financial constraints but at the end of the day it’s it’s the right way to do it you have to live within your means you have to.
You don’t work hard and you work long hours but.
You become self-reliant and and then i know that comes something else what yourself for less than you’re able to help other people asking where i come from so i have an entrepreneurial background.
As well as can a christian conservative background and i think that’s the proper way of.
Governing is have a smaller government that helps people and encourages people to,
provide for themselves surgeon so was it isn’t watertown air from your water to water town okay that’s what i thought you even use you can have a brother currently agriculture don’t,
sure yet one of my brothers marry into a family there family farmers in.
And yeah from mitchell area and so is very close to the ag community is okay so i have this hour.
Oriented wikipedia her part of the do part of this biography but is it about was it nineteen eighty eight is when you graduate with a college or high sunday school high school and then you went to go work for mr start senator,
mary wrestler yeah i actually looking.

[13:16] Very so i worked out washing dc for right out of college or pursue my internship.
And then i was full time i’d i have the most important what least center processors and that i had the most important job in the office which was opening the mail and disturbing email making sure the email got answer.
But it was a very important learning lots of new people at seven and three hundred letters are there was three hundred dollars a day that you read and understand.
Send back a letter.
And you learn what everybody’s areas of issues were so social security healthcare issues to transportation agriculture to,
it’s just a very good learning experience,
and i actually felt inspire licenses know what i’m gonna contact mr president and see if you like to share anything i get the money i got from him was no may i wanna make sure that i’m not endorsing,
any of the three candidates spaces i consider.
Meal tap your friends is near tapioca case i’m quoting from the email gave sent back it says you tap you didn’t work for us in excellent job all tasks we sign in i do consider him a friend.

[14:27] Yes he said he don’t think that you would that’s his are question are probably won’t mind orson by friends all the candidates and wish them all including your.

[14:35] Well centers in.
I’ll unique experience in that they have a home in it i was able to stay in the basement of his home for the first two or three months.
That’s all i got i am i able to see exactly the life of the center in nineteen years old it’s or twenty one years old extraordinarily ninety from a small town in south dakota.
And they him and his ball is life harriet witches she went out of her way to make sure that i was taking care of and was included in many of their events that they would have.
But it gave me a first first row seat to political.
Each one of the things about center pressler that think you find interesting is that he had what’s called the pressler amendment.
Which was probably one of the and he will couldn’t be bribed if you remember ask him where,
there is no way that when they did should i the stories you guys don’t know is that the fbi or what had,
only this is how i got center bertha was they said okay we’ll tests these caught the senators and congressmen and offer them a bright white,
and pressure was the one who said of all of them that he was the one that absolutely would refuse ii address for invitation to the word well.
I don’t think that would be appropriate and you know he.
Just the kind of the cord connection was that it was something that he didn’t think was appropriate to their offering him money to vote a certain way but depress them and it was interesting to where he refuse or.

[16:18] To sell at six sixteen fighters to pakistan.
Which kinda fits into this discussion that we’re having right now of the war in,
in you know islamic countries pakistan being one of the islamic countries so when you do talk to him he would be a very fascinating questioned explore,
of why he was so adamant about not selling in.
Fighting fire place to pakistan so anyway that noise a great experience i learned alot of a very thankful for.
The opportunity is your biography says okay the next thing they houses that you can try to help someone else ryan and then you did something else,
so politics relay this is two thousand two and,
you end up doing business i use you get a couple of interstate one was that he sold industrial washers i think another one was that you said you’d helped build center houses out here in sioux falls in neighborhood.
You i remember interesting on the left me said that the guy that you actually see that you fell for.
Two thousand eight recession when they have wasn’t the crash the way everyone call it.
That you for that won t let us talk a little bit about your life between will in just go through the full just give you a quick email but,
after senator pressler i work for the republican senatorial committee for one election cycle ended opposition research.

[17:50] I moved back to south dakota to work for wells fargo financial which is a finance company that financed basically furniture loans.
After that i moved to sioux falls and with the red sea briefly moved to sioux falls and i work for a credit card company called i’ll be and i got fired from taco bake.
Because i was late to work and then i was heading.
Early have to be somewhere at five o’clock and a so i left a little bit early in my boss said he where you going and i said i gotta get outta here in one of the lake twice in the same day.
And so that wasn’t you wanna necessarily say that so.
Especially especially here in the midwest they take the take tardiness and them being on time for anything you w hat and in what i learned was that you have to love your job if you don’t love your job you’re not going to put the whole.
Bunch of it of your energy into it and i didn’t necessarily like my job and so.
It kinda got my cd i found a us a sales position where i actually started to excel.
And my first week of time in sales on hundred percent commission basis i actually almost doubled my income from the previous months work.
To bake and once i realize that you can actually have a.
Income based on your performance as opposed to based on your showing up or or that you interviewed really well.

[19:27] I really started enjoying life and so i been sales.
On and off my entire life so i sold industrial cleaning equipment on automatic parts washer.
The car dealerships implement dealerships do you know small towns repair shop for jo’s repair shop.
All the way up to and i still do that to this day but i sell to a fortune fifty company so slumber j and b are using halliburton.
And my ship equipment that ranges from you know ten thousand dollars all the way up to a million dollars a ship and all around the world so.
And i used every little bit of information.
Along the way in the in the position that i have now so when i worked at wells fargo financial i hated that job because i charge thirty nine percent interest rates to people and i thought it was immoral.
But i learned how to sell in that job.
And i learned how to sell money so if you wanted something for ten thousand dollars i learned that it’s only two hundred fifty dollars a month for five years you can afford that right.
Until i learn how to sell.
And finances equipment now i have a seals and leasing company where i sell payments on a million dollars of people say i can’t afford a million dollars is all you can probably afford five thousand dollars a month which it.
And all of a sudden you can reduce people’s value down to a workable amount of became quite proficient that,
so i was in sales for quite a while the downfall sales is that you travel a lot so many months are many years i would spend a hundred two hundred eighty days to the hotel room i traveled pretty much and sold from.

[21:08] New york pennsylvania california from north dakota taxes all around the side the review of the home in.
I’m so i sell the equipment in between there i built spec homes in sioux falls and you know my.
All hackers tell me a large number of people in my family are self-employed business people contractors general contractor so i don’t thirty homes here in sioux falls.
Invest in my own money.
Did a lot of work myself i hired a lot of subcontractors negotiated a lot of the new all the contracts.
And then end up selling me and i am not in two thousand eight.
With about a million half dollars worth of homes and they shut down the jumbo loan program where they could there were no buyers.
And so when you watch the market collapse i was selling four hundred twenty five thousand dollar homes.
And you couldn’t find a buyer and so i sat real twelve thousand five hundred dollar payments for the year to have straight.
That would be that would be like the where the that a good time to be in the home business is horrible i learned how to gain thirty pounds a year of that you do that it is very pretty that you are the that okay so.
That was a bad time living that life is all about is you have good ten go bad times and you try to learn from your mistakes and.
And always have kind of an idea that things are better now what could you back into politics wasn’t it was it.

[22:41] Okay so maybe you were on some i understand if i fly me to be real quick was that you were you heard that can trump’s campaign stuff you got interesting front see you when trunk and it was from that that you with then surely,
after working with.
Trump you ran for state senate or do i have those backwards that states senate and then the truck campaign stuff yeah so i got any given up so i started.
After i lost all the money into in housing a kinda lost about half a million dollars.
And i ended up with about three thousand dollars my bank account.
Just briefly a for a year i worked for growth energy which is that little trade association i help them set up memberships with the hundred and sixty cool upper farmer owned ethanol plants.
Around the country i think we team together raise three or four million dollars for.
And then i laughed and i started back selling into the parking oil field and so i started working eighty hours a week and selling of their.
And how long did you work in the woodlands so two thousand.
End of two thousand ten intel now i still do the only true professionals right now in the oil industry went from,
you know it went from average price of twenty five dollars a barrel when all the way up two hundred forty dollars a barrel and in two thousand fifteen fourteen it crashed back down to twenty five dollars or even lower.

[24:15] And so business just shut off nobody was buying anything and.
I’d seen a lot of bubbles is on the bubble in in two thousand eight and i i i was frustrated that politicians.
Didn’t even know where the mortgage black back security was clatter lies debt obligation was orange alone in it we created incentives and programs,
that were really were negative they they were actually creating perverse incentives for people not to pay their loans back or to take,
excessive risk without me with no way that they would never be able to pay you couldn’t contain it right and so i saw that and i saw the exact same thing happen in north dakota,
where we are creating a bottle and ten mentality this time i went through it and i know what a bubble was and so i protected myself.
By not actually leasing my equipment but doing it at a rental program where they would be arrested but i always have ownership of all of my foot.
And so when things went bad and i think eleven or fifteen companies file bankruptcy.
I never last one dying because i had written my contracts based on my experience from before so when everything went south i.
I’ve always been frustrated that the politicians don’t are sophisticated enough to see they don’t have enough background on business and entrepreneurship.
And i always wanted to kinda get involved and donald trump came along and started saying that you could have always been outside or even when i work for senator pressler.

[25:52] I’ve always been an outsider that but the system was broken that politicians are controlled by fear they’re not controlled by confused why is risk taking or no basically you’ve heard of big companies they’re all yes men.
Well it’s that’s what ends up happening government everybody’s yes-man the covering your own.
Right down it so you get it i just have a different perspective is it we should be able to have business people it take to make decisions good decisions and create a fair and level playing field for all.
Don’t try and got involved i recognize that he was going to win very early because it was a message that was right for the times.
And i share the message so what what i’m so what year old like what what month it and what year was so so probably just before the i guess before the cops i think.
How long before when i hit something i immediately knew when he announced that he was going to be formidable and there was a very good chance that he would win.
I knew that because i go up and talk to all these people in the oil industry and i sit in these big factories that were the size of a football field and they were almost empty there be five or six three people sitting there.
And i would give us do some smalltalk in there be alone a conversation i see what they got for trouble.
And these guys these guys muscle men with tattoos on their neck and ear stretchers and these were just go wyeth of men and they all say you were voting for trump he’s the savior.

[27:29] That’s a really they go to the next place in the same thing these guys.
Trucks gonna do when i go into the regional managers of the western region meetings and the same thing would happen these guys were all trump fans and i would try i travel a lot,
i would call and ten thousand people a year make us for vases thousands of people they were all trump fans i started realizing.
The the selection was about.

[27:55] All of the failed policies of the liberal yeah the of on his administration for the last and he was separating people that wanted to get up and move the morning and produce something of value.
From the people that we’re going to get something from government and all of the former the factory workers the union workers and the police and the fire.
Fighters those are all former democrats they were rushing into the trunk republican party did not mean and not the little in on your computer decision by icing if i look at this,
objectively as a political risk taker political gamble me,
you really don’t out me no one i think carly told front as seriously as i did for along time me a pass i will caucuses,
imma political news junkie totally blindsided me as like no way no way and then when it was down like human weather for sounds like.

[28:51] Okay this is happening this and this is something that is that we should explore so i.

[29:00] I was in a field with a lot of blue collar workers you know the majority of people i sell tool that mechanics and you know just labors use right.
And all of those people were being energize to wanna get involved in politics for the first time really that i’ve ever seen.
So i recognize it very early but a lot of people that were in the soup all the downtown areas are connected to the.
Ab missed that little wave pool even just like following the national media fee it has like all i watch it all have like a screen with cnn over there fox over there at the same time that the sound of one programming and.
Just and i read a lot of political blocks on both sides and i did not see it coming at all it you where i think you are right that front.
For whatever reason seen the best happened to the frustration lot of people were feeling i know in my own family.

[30:03] That the frustrations you know there’s this feeling that in america americans have their kids of a very strong sense of beer there has that if you are hardworking and you give all that you can give that the result of that to turn out well i think a lot of people were feeling.
Without employment with get our power titled our time the programs are in that just things weren’t fair,
i think from tapped into that and this is this be more speaking better to buy the truck did well to really tap into that frustration of feeling gas absolute hundred percent he tapped into.
You know it and people miss misunderstand trump is that he didn’t create the movement.
There was a movement are you going on and he’s a result of all the problems that happened in politics when you end up with trillion dollar deficits as a standard operating.

[30:59] You’re going to have a singer in you’re going to have conflict all over the place it’s he lives in that area right he’s.
He does his own present press releases are public relations the radio as as you know whatever daniel center what he is he is.
Incredibly well qualified candidate for this time the the people that are frustrated you know.

[31:30] If he’s the representative notice this that idea i think.
I think you’re right in your analysis now so that was pretty needing to work with now president trump and vice president pants.
What was it like you you are the st campaign manager of the from campaign which any knowledgeable little.
I need special once i got past the primary season me that was like that was a that was a out of.
South dakota i would have to expect an awful lot happened south dakota at any chance of going blue there was not there is a chance that you didn’t work,
on the and i had read a couple news stories find this but i did that you didn’t work in toronto that you were always there has rights to the purpose of training you in south dakota was to,
in making sure that you can get a large volunteer network of people that will be helping phone calling in different battleground states,
that was one of the largest part of my job was to make sure that people in every area.
That were willing to man the phones in so we would be calling in the battleground states and then as the election became closer you know within a month.
Month and a half then i moved to northern colorado helped other state directors run volunteer teams work events that think present drinking two or three times northern colorado.
I help working event in north sioux city or sioux city iowa gas and in that was the in of.

[33:01] The really interesting experiences was to watch how these events what happened.
He announced my first when i went to colorado he announced thirty six hours before an event in mother in colorado and he filled the auditorium with fifteen thousand people and there were fifteen thousand people.
Waiting outside while.
That’s rock star status in people was a hillary clinton at the same time they were saying hillary clinton was up by twelve points if you look at my facebook page you’ll read that i said i don’t see how she’s up.
Because the error i have not been involved in politics for twenty five years i have never seen anybody fill a stadium and get thirty thousand people.

[33:44] Where is that happened right now and so i was seeing something entirely has it hasn’t happened in a long time and it is the.
Probably won’t be duplicated because he’s a rock star he’s a person that is a he’s a public figure and personality.
That was also tapping into resonating with,
an entirely different group of people another thing that people have to understand is these weren’t republican traditional republicans going to these events.
I went to the rally down in iowa and beside me in the vip section i was kind organizing that.
There were union workers there was a purple heart recipient there was a gold star mother there was some pipe fitters these were.
These were not people that go to the lake and a dinner the republic and the other these were hardcore rough looking.
Does red blooded americans and that was the movement and that’s what was messed up all of these,
all of these cnbc riverside be so i know where to go to the residence is in the best mistake i mean people we the five thirty eight i think is often thought of as a top of the game right now,
and what special was that and they completely missed it so tell here’s another interesting.

[35:08] I worked one event and i had a volunteer out in colorado and she was a five foot me one each mexican lady shoes about fifty fifty five years old and the first time i matter.
Is you speaking phone calls and she says i am going to pray over president trump.

[35:28] And i said wow that’s ambitious and she says i don’t know how it could happen but i will bring over a.
And sure enough they will we have a call center that was all set up and there was an i was able to get her in to that call center and she stood up in the middle of the vent and said president or.
Mr trump will be okay if i came forward and praying over you and all the sudden a bunch of people came over with this five one mexican tears are flowing all over the places she’s praying over him.
And it’s a side of president trump that people don’t know is it he was incredibly humbled by that experience and.

[36:10] It’s those type a little things that you can see the character of a person.
Where you know right now you got some horrible stories that are tough i’m sure for his wife and son but there’s there’s very.
Intimate times in that campaign where you see the humanity of president trump is quite interesting watch well don’t think for sure that that’s a really glad that we got to share that story isn’t something i’ve heard before especially not outside.
Of our commander in chief right so i could.
I need to move this interview forward sparking me five minutes in illinois state only wouldn’t get too many of those issues but did i think it’s great that we brought up some stuff that other people have but okay so here’s.
So with your experience in politics.
I mean okay so i guess the question everyone asks and this is actually probably with the center president for the gas is present from his house and she was president trump when president trump said acts or or ass there’s no and and now i got a mean.
Idea of asking as respectfully as i can i mean when you when you said like at the about interface today that this was,
overtly political which in some ways it was os ass in terms of services does cherry work and very much parcel service’s but did you also.
Do happen to politics from time to time and there were some more political.
And groups that are also lie religious freaks me with your political background mean.

[37:42] Some people would say you know neal you know you what you should have done better this that to say no x or why.

[37:51] If you was in particular to the inter faith group in of.

[37:58] An observer of politics and overload i believe that there’s an assault on christian values and christian family.
And then you look at who’s doing the assaulting so there’s an lgbt community that is pushing their agenda.
Right or wrong there is there a job that they’re pushing that agenda call lives with a christian family are christian values and.
James dobson was labeled in his group family here to lot was labeled a christian he organization because he defended traditional marriage right.

[38:35] The organizations that did that were the aclu,
and this other hot guys saracen okay then there’s not a political controversial seem to that are pushing that agenda.
Where the same people in the inter faith movement or a large numbers of them the ceo new girl is standing right there and the the person they contact the southern poverty law center was sitting beside me.
There is an agenda that people have that’s when my dad was a lutheran minister in the lutheran church there’s a division going on in the lutheran church and is being divided by this this.
This is a belief that there are.

[39:18] We should have the marriage that was the clergy that we should have deductions very aggressive society progressive and that’s divided the church okay that’s a political movement that is not part of.
Specific traditional christian faith based movement right.
So there pushing an agenda political agenda they are also saying that we need to have diversity that we need to accept everybody and what my point is is that they.

[39:48] Just because you have a different viewpoint doesn’t mean that it is equal in value to another view point so if one person,
believes that they should be able to have sex with a four year old and other person says will no i think that you should be two consenting adults those are not equal right i get what is amazing is that in the interstate,
we’re saying that we should except everybody my point is is that,
we’re fighting a war on islamic terrorism and we need to understand the root of terrorism when people say that terror has nothing to do with islam.

[40:26] Yet all the terror organizations were fighting in the name of allah the go by isis elk it should be book a room at nuestra amounts has blood.
These are fighting in the name of those whose of terrorists russia so if people object to me calling you that long to terrorism which was my.
My only resolution was at the end was we support president trump first fight against radical islamic terrorism.
And the what the people had the people in the interfaith group had was that they didn’t want to label that is lompoc they came to me and says if you take out as long.
Will pay will let that pass this until the point of it is is the point out that.
It’s important to point out to the people fighting in the military who you’re fighting we’re fighting people that are fighting in the name of their religion and if we don’t recognize that we have a problem there pushing pushing that agenda,
so that makes them political organization that’s all i’m saying rn is on so yeah let’s just back up a little bit okay so i get was emerson i think solve your problems,
did you be friend is that a lot of people.
In the united states and elsewhere in the western world like he’s a lot disclaimers before they talk about subject you don’t seem to be one that says that to the tv set display would be says now i think,
sorry to interrupt the issue of home and i’m not seen as we don’t use twitter but if you same sex services i think the people who are.

[41:56] Who are gay or lesbian are very nice people and blah blah very nice to say that i disagree on,
it’s for example i without having the judge decided a federal judge decide on the issue same sex marriage or not,
but they have a disclaimer and that disclaimer to make to sevenths americans are very important you don’t see the use in a doing the uber so when they hear,
well be know you talk about christian values so the first thing in my asked me as well as me that he only wants christians he doesn’t like.
Jews a dozen like you know your progressive muslim using like ax me.
So i need help me out here it is this is your background speaking or.
Do you really feel that it’s it’s christian only it was a american and will not when you say christian values i think like a traditional american judeo christian values did you get what i’m saying sure and and a.
These are very we could have a full podcast just on this conversation about the history of christianity or western judeo christian values or you know western christendom.
Because.
Is there isn’t separate culture of western judeo christian values rate unit that is separate from eastern religion values or whatever.
When you understand where we came from and what freedom where we believe freedom comes from is completely unique.
The idea that god gives us complete freedom and that.

[43:29] We have the freedom to believe or not to believe to express yourself the freedom of the press.
Those aren’t guaranteed by our constitution right.
Those those are given to us by the constitution we recognize as western judeo christian values and christian values that.

[43:49] Those are given to us by god inalienable rights okay when we start there that said that comes out of.
Really just christian it comes out of the process revolution the idea that martin luther actually posted the ninety five thesis and said we don’t have to go through intercessory to talk to god that god.

[44:13] Gives us the right to talk back to him that’s quite amazing know he is right it’s the great leap forward or whatever the name of that purchase like it they go,
and so does yearly that thousand yearly but that it’s it’s.
We have to have a longer discussion of where we go if you’ve heard me speak and if you hurt me,
i was given a half hour speeches to from where freedom comes from from that the very beginning of cicero and socrates of western today or just western thought.
All the way through the dark ages and how we can wassup how you got mixed up and with the allergy where you are forced to believe.
As that as is the church pot and if you didn’t you be declared a heretic and then out of that struggle.
Martin luther the price revolution we fought bloody wars we fight a thirty years war were nine million people lost their lives to get away from this idea that they had to set the church and state were combine okay.
We we fought to get rid of that when we moved in so i know that comes the enlightenment in france where you have a renaissance of arts.
And then in the united states of the exact same time political renaissance this idea that you could encapsulated in a written document.
Form of self government that allowed us to have complete total freedom that it was completely written as almost a negative rights.

[45:49] The government can’t take away our rights that’s really the heart and soul of water constitution is.
When i talk about christian values that comes out of the christian tradition okay is not saying that i don’t by the believe everybody should be christian.
To the contrary actually because.
Of the foundation of christianity which is love the lord thy god with all thy heart with all the soul and with all thy mind and your neighbor as thyself.
That we’re all sinners and that were to love our neighbor as amazing.
Is that allows it open for a society so that we can all disagree that out of out of that love for each other.
We can have disagreements and we would go to have a rule of law okay that’s a separate way of thinking than say even islamic society islamic society when you read the book the reason it every islamic country.
There’s what fifty seven is on the majority countries they all have a punishment for leaving islam and fourteen of them have a punishment of death for leaving islam.
You see how that’s completely different right now is it so what i talk about is.
We want to make sure we educate i talk about the dialogue so that we can help educate people exactly what freedom means and compare that to.
What.

[47:20] People would say freedom in is level there’s there’s no such thing as complete and total freedom in islam because if there was you believe it without any punishment on some people might not believe that.

[47:35] But they don’t really believe in the literal interpretation of their the books that are there scriptures i would say that there is a good enough areas that there is a good chunk of people that they when they hear anything.
Critical is longer just the worst on a conversation the kind of.

[47:52] To take off their brain hat and that’s when the monthly income that i would i would agree with you on that that that that discussion of cultural values needs to be discussed when you talk about the history of,
is on his m and m countries i think that’s all they put up i do i need to be fair though that think,
i think that when you talk about issues of is long that you’re not really distinguishing say no i,
stringent as long as tree is seven days long neck system as long as because many countries even i ran back to nineteen seventy eight that was very very,
progressive country turkey till just two years ago was called the paris of the middle east in there there is a history and is in the islamic world of.

[48:41] Forward,
in western thinking by think a lot it’s been that scared and so when people you talk the day with the here is they don’t hear that your your same value or our culture history and use,
there are different in there culture that’s not what they’re here and they’re just hearing that your your islam of all the car is longer,
they cater i mean your jokes your guy with background in politics you’re very well aware of how all this sounds i mean.
Is this an accident on their part that your label with much in this.

[49:12] I mean where they call you bigots or i need help me understand these from from your experience will how are you.
How do you handle this issue i did i was like garbled words so that you’ll i think probably.
The way you want to.

[49:33] You have to start a conversation where both people are on the same starting spot okay so.

[49:41] Three years ago i didn’t know anything for four years ago i knew there was islamic terrorism a new september eleventh happened.
But i didn’t understand why isis and kind and book of romans why there were islamic terror organizations everywhere.
And so when i read the koran it became very clear but i read the bible the new testament it’s.
Listen to the poor in spirit for they shall inherit the earth it’s very very its simple and vague the koran is just the story of muhammad’s life and his conversation with all.
As he goes and so every situation he’s in he’s given a directive by allah okay and so when he was in mecca he talked in mecca for fourteen years and he he spoke of a very.
What what someone is a peaceful religion that that you should take care of the church for the first ten percent and the social justice you should take care of the poor for a next ten percent and there is a way to take care of this it will.
He was kicked out of mac and went to medina and he became a war lord where he started.
Winning by the sword and then he conquered is really tried and he be headed six hundred forty people and it says in the koran says i was victorious through the use of terror and that if people are offended you.
If he’s talked about how we one use strike at their neck okay so that is the inspiration of islamic terrorists right.

[51:17] Is and that’s what i’m trying to point out the trying to figure out i don’t know how to have a dialogue talk to people about this but people need to know that that is the root cause of terrorism is the devout.
Followers of the book the koran and the the the sooner which are the other scriptures.
Those are the ones that we have to be concerned about and so that all people believe in.
There’s a portion so the question is is a free society how do we determine who believes in this and who doesn’t believe in this.
And that’s a really difficult issue to discuss and i think,
out for will to think because of the time we have i think we’ll finish on talking about immigration ten and then will we control whole hour i now,
it goes so fast were fifteen more minutes while so can we go a little over an hour and the reasons you want this podcasting so uncool of your gmail okay so i know i think we’re all always respect your time so,
well let’s go let’s let’s at least finish,
this conversation moving to immigration officer there strongly tied the in there almost issue at least and then discussion.
Hear us so so you but you do understand that.
You know that there is there are progressive muslims the many muslims in the.

[52:43] Hmm a password for some of these ideas these extreme that the these extreme laws that do exist the country’s but no majority of muslims and say malaysia are violent yeah was it just like the majority of the now ex.

[52:57] Religion tends not to be violent is a go and you can you can understand where saying that they are saying that will need happy he believes all muslims are dangerous and you will you would disagree with that statement obviously.
Right so thermostat malaysia so they will in each is on the country they have a ministry of islamic interpretation right.
And they will determine which how do the how they’re going to believe is a society.
Alright so for instance it read the has what’s called salon office which are the most violent and most attendance most incline to have a terrorist mentality.
They believe in the fall implementation of islamic law.
We need to understand that in malaysia they have a much lower and that’s why not everybody has the death penalty for apostasy so that they skew towards a different area there’s cultural.
Can muslims that are really don’t believe in anything but a,
are just generally share the same culture and is always like there are there people orange oh yeah and you should secular the exact document and so maybe there’s a whole wide range of people.
All i’m saying i rarely talk about muslims you notice i always talk about islam and islam this is the radical islamic terrorism.

[54:28] I am simply pointing out that there is,
the reason when we’re fighting those people there following that book completely i find it quite ironic that that the groups that are opposing me.
Fight so that when we capture somebody and we put him in guantanamo the same groups that are opposing me are saying that we need to give them a prayer rugs and occur on.
So the people that are reading that book literally.

[54:58] We’re giving them the document that tells them how to fight and what to do with their captured okay that’s a that’s weird to me.
Does that i don’t know if that’s weird to you that if they believe in the literal interpretation and that’s why they’re fighting we give them a book that.
How some understand what to do next right.
So all i’m saying is that we have to understand exactly what is in this was in the book is olives and now i don’t know if i can i would have to think more about it it in my gut reaction to that is that generally allow.
Whatever religious group access to their sacred text and there was like how do you how to manual on terrorism yeah obviously would say yes i would i don’t ever have the keira i have not read the current in in his that i recommend.
Here’s what i do is i show people this is this is when people say that they offer paradise is this chapter page one ten chapter nine terrorist right here in the heart of a believer strike off their heads as in chapter eight.

[56:03] I highlighted these because it’s important for people to understand that christians are infidels and that do not the jews or christians as friends.
Christians are infidels a secret take not on the unbelievers kill the infidels alright so that the.
The moderate muslims see those are all misinterpreted right yeah and the only mr let me be applied for time or something yeah in so it’s either that specific line is that if they offend you,
so if you’re talking like i talk to a cab driver down in florida while back and.
And i was a measles asking just from some carrot curious questions and i started asking will do you think that you should be killed for leaving islam.
And and he hesitated is so either sometimes where you think there should be.
He’s well with the they say something negative about it is that one of the what.

[57:02] If you say something negative about islam you should be killed and i i didn’t know what to say.

[57:10] It is a good one that’s that’s what you believe are eight and so we have to really have a horribly this frank discussion.
And that’s really what when i point out the the grass in in egypt is ninety five million people estimates from pew research suggest.
That probably two thirds of believe that you should be killed for leaving is loved her married or if you’re dating somebody that’s a former muslim.

[57:40] Hey in their father comes to town.
It says you need to convert back but yet he still is new and then easy when there is no freedom.

[57:51] Even if you leave it there is no freedom there is another story there’s a very influential muslim before muslim individual that works for the state government.
In rapid city and after all the research i spent three years going to suppose you’re talking to interest.
Interestingly people say oh i doubt he’s ever talk to muslim i had dinner probably with thirty or forty.
Muslims are former muslims in a three year period time.
I posted a girl from of water from the rain in in watertown who is sold into a child marry astoria.
She’s amazing unbelievable her last words from her father was to restore honor to our family mean you.
I need to see.

[58:48] That’s how you restore family under her house and her dad was a chic plant in a rayon okay.
When you understand that this is a part maybe not all people believe in this but that’s a that’s a strange part of this.
Culture that we have to understand how this works together and all i’m doing is saying this is what i’ve read so far this is what i know so far and i’m willing to talk to anybody about it which.

[59:20] Is you know you meet people that haven’t experienced it read it so well disadvantages when i talk to people i bring this with me because it.
It’s really real when i say hear it says christians are infidels and do not take infidels as friends i mean what what is that mean is that just a word in the book.

[59:40] Or is that something more serious is that some people will ignore that.

[59:48] But that doesn’t mean it still isn’t there a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound weather sound race created right.
Here is the same thing it’s in the book i get when we did it i would be okay so i would say that i do know that.

[1:00:05] Concerns about religion are something that are valid even in the western world i know that it’s been cancelled i’m a member of church is pressed the saints are more minutes,
and it’s told that if you are teaching someone that is lbs particular of their woman to have husband’s permission or fifth or just one in general there’s often council has no do not teacher did you put in this position where,
she feels that she wants to be baptized that makes a relationship.
An impossible for her and her family for her and her husband so i do know that there and that this this survey and.
Cool provides the americans and the world many in the western world have don’t apply across the board everywhere i know that were pulling many more in their channels are turkey right now because it’s become too dangerous to have them there,
a turkey i mentioned earlier mastering turkey and turkey is,
has there own has their own dictator in chief like china does and that’s it’s a big problem so i agree with you on,
that the values problem i thinks baby is because you were raised and that from a lutheran minister that you take.
Talking about this the current actual book very.
On the really i think some maybe that’s probably heard your message a little bit cuz the turn up with the always will go to if you bring this up in a new furnace is well you know it says in leviticus,
that if you catch someone doing acts that you got do why this unit was jesus christ was all about having a new texas vs offers race to.

[1:01:43] That we no longer had to.
News crews fulfill the law you that that was left in the past and that we now are are free you so that it is the new covenant right so the.
That’s a history lesson of where we came is kind of gives you a story of.
But jesus christ message is clear nobody should ever confused christ message his message was that we’re all sinners.

[1:02:13] And that we are to love our center neighbor and that we were taught share the good news.

[1:02:21] Of christ’s coming and his salvation to people that they no longer have to carry the burdens themselves that he is death.
And what are the cross he died for their sins and release people from their sins freedom freedom in christ right.

[1:02:40] That’s a completely different message so i object to just things that don’t make sense.
When people say that is lol has nothing to do with terror my all kinds of antenna go off because i see no.
It has something to do with terror because we spent seven trillion dollars on it were fighting about nineteen different organizations in every country in the world including every state in the nation we’re fighting islamic terrorism and when you compare.
What to clean plastic landed.
That’s an abomination that had nothing to do you can’t find a part in scripture where it said hanging black people from trees it is not in the new testament.

[1:03:24] It says that we’re all god’s children that we should love our neighbor.
Okay so were there questions that did some bad things absolutely in person tell me that you know hitler kill all kinds of people and i i think he forgot the actually we went over and fried.
A whole civilization based on people’s.
Convictions that there’s right things to do so i’m talking about in in creating a war before going to war with identify who your enemy is.
We’re not fighting hindu terrorists are not fighting buddhist terrorists we’re fighting islamic terrorists period if you can’t agree on that we shouldn’t go to war at all.

[1:04:07] It was suppose back each person that comes back that has p pst is costing your country eleven thousand five hundred dollars.
We have no what what is this is government has done to the the the that’s with va has done to the vets i mean we’re gonna look back,
hundred years from now and is the from in what way guys thinking that the like how we look at the japanese internment camps now or like.
Why how did you guys justify that yeah i think what happened to her that’s is not immoral.
I just i guess in summary will i know we will get on some other issues in summary i just believe that you have to have very honest frank discussion when president trump reads the pole about a snake.

[1:04:53] He’s talking about something in this is long it terrorism he’s trying to tell people that you have to understand the root cause of terror.
I simply fill in the blanks where were president trump talks a hundred forty characters i just share with people little bit more of the information.
And this is a very uncomfortable topic i know it makes people uncomfortable but we have to face it.
Because what’s going on in western europe what’s going on germany is taking a million migrants a year.
Is changing their culture know some people might not care if their culture is gone.
There’s a lot of us that do believe that we are trying to reach is shining city on the hill.
And that that we one was fire to something great that we’re not we’re not perfect.
But our goal is to try to find the best in humanity possible and i believe that.
Conservative values that are are a mother and a father having children a loving home.
Is the best way to pass on your knowledge from one generation to the next match is july skills teaching people to get up in the morning and go to work.
But also am sense of morality.
How to treat other people how to live with than you know with kindness and respect and faith hope and charity those are the values that we have to have pressed in is really a road map of how to be happy.

[1:06:23] Where yet of faith in god you have to believe that you’re here for a reason if they have a belief that if you going to problems you got a friend in jesus.
And then hope that that there’s something to look forward to that there’s there’s a reason we’re here that there’s an attorney that we can.
Can aspire to and that there’s hope for tomorrow that if you go through tough times like when i gained thirty pounds and lost everything.
And i had back surgery and back problems and couldn’t get out of bed for five days that there’s going to be hoping something and then charity that once you have everything in line that you love that’s what love is all about is that you love your neighbor.
That’s my messages that that’s the answer to so many problems and try to figure out how can we use government.
In some women fashion to encourage those the haters i call them christian beaters to it comes from christ faith hope and love.
The grass one of these is love that’s what i look at that’s what i’m that’s what i’m selling people might buy it people may not buy some people might be offended by that.
I think its workforce i think that’s really what trunk means when you make america great again is to get back to.
Take a value system and i think i know a lot of mormons and worked in utah for a full year of my life.

[1:07:49] Absolutely enjoyed my experience getting no incredibly large number of mormons and then good people.

[1:07:58] People family people they there’s a system that they have worked out that that you have worked out.

[1:08:07] Places family above everything right and and that’s that’s a part of as a part of the secret.
And and we’re just trying to destroy families that.
And i din interview with the south dakota public broadcasting lady and i was explain your that the optimum is to have a mother father child and she disagree with me.

[1:08:29] Ask what were we come.
Where that you just need an adult no a child once a sense of belonging you wanna understand where your roots go down you wanna know your father’s and your mother’s heritage.
That’s what the mormon church digs into heritage to know a lot so i know this i know i need the speaking of cup i think that this is one of those values they think most people to believe even those on the that believing in.
Gay marriage the off of the they still have the sense that you need to have.
Strong roots and strong parental figures there and then we could disagree on if that works or not be with gay marriage but i think there’s a general sense of people have that they need.
The two parents are lease is much as possible to have both parents in the picture of a female mother and father mother and father back in.
You get what i’m saying okay lunches and i really as a congressional can i shouldn’t go into the subject but.

[1:09:32] Do you think you’re born gay diets is.
How do you like the african guy is that is dangerous is this the script in the talking points as a dangerous topic because it.
He can go either way there’s some people that feel that yes this is something maybe it’s genetic or it’s something that happened with fetal syndrome so there’s on the fairway but the others feel their choice and me either feel it somewhere in between.
No i’m gonna answer that the person that i have no idea i need that’s that’s not struggle i’ve had,
i have it and it’s not even struggle that i’ve had no family members close to me and you some families do have a family member or to my uncle and nephew cuz i don’t have that so i don’t know.
But you know what’s interesting is that i’m prepared to talk about that horrible and it is the user to used to be on top ass nobody would dare ever talk about.
And i am completely prepared to have an hour long conversation with anybody about that camera is topping and that’s the challenge.
That’s what we want to college the prevailing wisdom was that there was.
There’s a ten percent society on campus utensils present society was.
They thought they said that ten percent of all populations were gay and so they had a ten percent society.

[1:11:02] Yeah that’s like it wanted to usb not that long ago but that’s with a ten percent as it is sitting in the gay students reservation for,
now the question is where do they get the number ten percent that went off in my mind with that doesn’t make sense and so i started exploring that and you know where the ten percent actually comes from i don’t he comes from a study that was conducted in the present.

[1:11:27] Okay now is there a chance that possibly if yours included in the present.

[1:11:36] That more people are more that he has a reason as opposed to not gay.
Right so when you start looking at.

[1:11:48] It’s a very very difficult topic to discuss but when you’re creating policy as a government.

[1:11:57] That is re writing a wholemeal ammonium of history and tradition of a marriage between a man and a woman.

[1:12:06] You need to have people that are very very well versed or study on this issue.
And as much time as i put into this i haven’t spent as much time on the island homosexuality and marriage and in but i have.

[1:12:24] I have investigated and talked a lot and i’m ready.
To at the right time to help lead that conversation because what i’ve found is that of the the the the loneliest people in the world the people that need a hug more than anybody else in the world.
The people that need that believe that they should be cared that they should be cared for and they should be.
My heart goes out to the people that are homosexual because they either filled with anxiety they’re filled with sadness there’s a reason especially transsexuals right now there’s a reason why.
Suicide rates approach forty to fifty that is right yeah the amounts of mental illness and depression for people that identify as transgender as much fire and,
general population there’s a push to have sex change operation once it had a sex change operation to to re identify.
That the suicide rate even goes higher were in and they’re so there’s an effort to.
Maybe even to mainstream that is not even a mental illness but it’s just a physical out malady that has to be corrected so children are having you know.

[1:13:46] Long before.

[1:13:50] They’re able to make any decisions for themselves as an adult there they’re being told that they might have some sort of a.
Sex change this is a major major deal one of the biggest cost of health insurance right now in the state prison yet is is are these things,
and we have to have very,
hard and honest discussions with her and the the prison system say it’s been generally real that you have to go forward with with the gender sex change operation,
so the idea what percentage or was that run for like a medical budget so i think the realize it was that big a deal since it’s it well so that the process you just that the most.
So i think that the most expensive case in the prison.
Is a sex change operation i think it’s two hundred ninety five thousand dollars we spent of that last year as a budget item.

[1:14:46] Something i am talking to diamonds so by a my numbers can be skewed but so.
The process of getting that mean stream starts with a lawsuit that goes towards.
Some sort of of a state institution so maybe a present saying it you have to pay for this and then once it’s illegal statue once you.
And then all the sudden you have all other government officials or government positions have to pay for that and then from there,
that then becomes push on to private health insurance that you can’t discriminate there’s already a number for this in the coding in that you can’t discriminate based on this it’s all of a sudden.
You get these type of surgeries of these type of of diagnoses push through,
we have to be very careful with that one of the things that i saw my nephew was one of the greatest kids a used to play baseball with the money was in three years old he could hit the ball further than curry pocket.
He moved to minneapolis and and and he had a lot of energy.
And he was constraining and all of a sudden he was placed on reading and i started asking questions on how many kids around these type of adhd type of.
Diagnosing almost everybody with that we can’t allow.

[1:16:15] This culture of drugs and you are gonna talk about drugs today but we can’t allow this idea that everybody has a malady that has to be fixed with some sort of chemical issue or what we gotta get back to the.
Can the roots and we have to face these problems head on okay so i would for fifteen minutes or so i guess i think we we gave says some free softballs for coffee press the.

[1:16:42] Play with you what they want and we have ours free press the.

[1:16:51] There are one-third as cory idle perks that’s all ima say ever means worries out of.

[1:16:58] Every every day it’s like is like post st politics blog it’s it’s the.
It’s the democrats others answer just the war college okay to let the beat i just want to one college one is so periphery press okay i was i think that be pretty for my mom some rebeca heard of in,
go buy hamburger just over in verdun because there and look over,
no that is a fan of yours he has anything the at the amount of articles that he had it for a prolonged as i visiting i know who is he so obsessed with me a little bit i would say a little bit but i got.
I mean in all fairness he’s been using you as an example for some subjects so it is not always directly about you he’s just,
say using your property article capture this belt but yeah you are at me the address know i was i was setting up a joke i was wondering of the hindenburg,
i can’t look at it as a hamburger been doing it,
good you are hard and i’m struggling was going to smile i have nothing against corey corey is fine lady said he’s,
lol thank you guys are gonna do good you do well,
very interesting i enjoyed it thank you for the conversation i guess the last question i would have is so nice i started mower started closed earlier told the daily beast article that was alleging.

[1:18:33] That that that you have nt muslim schtick and that you do that shit,
wake love brunch he keeps so we can that the politicians do that so that they can get,
political points and so year that from what i’m saying is you’re if you’re interested in talking about hard subjects and that that comes from a sincere point of view that isn’t that you’re trying to drum up.
Republican points well i think.
Is it the reason i entered politics is because nobody wants to talk about the tough issues and i am not afraid that i make my living.
Cold call sales,
which is the most difficult way to make a living where i get told no over and over and people would rather die exactly and it came not just good at it but i’m the best in my industry in the best in my industry around the world.
And so it i actually enjoy the the verbal jousting or the gym the the thought provoking.
Part of conversation so that’s i am not afraid of any subject and if i don’t know something i’m willing to say no i talk about this issue because nobody else dares to.
I’m willing to talk about gay marriage were trans sexual because nobody else dares to and,
maybe not in the way that i think i am capable of doing it i believe that i’m a pretty thoughtful person a pretty reese.
The argus leader label me as a yellow or it is so rare that i yell.

[1:20:09] When you see me and outweighs is just not my personality that i really get along with everybody.
But i’m willing to stand up for what i believe and if something doesn’t make sense i’m willing to call people on it,
and that creates a confrontation and what i found in my life in my business is that when i have a confrontation this what made you go to cold call sales is that if you can get a confrontation where you get people’s.
Dander up a little better a little bit of frustration you can make break throughs because people are,
listen you’re married he won’t go in maybe i would suggest sometimes having a flight.
Is the next day is actually a good day gonna talk about stuff more just facet pastors over and over you have a your collision you resolve it.
And then you go one on one in my family lives you already do anything else july conflict no we’re very were softies are selfish over swizzle i make my living in conflict are.
With that said i believe that president trump that’s why i identify with president trump is that he makes his living in conflict.
He’s willing to pick a fight with rosie o’donnell he’s going to call ted cruz lion ted which little marco he’s willing to have a rocket man our little rocket man but what happens is is that you keep that dialogue going.

[1:21:39] And if somebody is offended all of a sudden that’s an opportunity to make amends.
And it’s rich’s amazing people would never have.
My best customers have told me i never wanna see you ever again and i engage in a year you are a low life son of a gun.

[1:22:01] And a week later the writing a check for twenty thousand dollars.
And they’re apologizing to me losing while you’re persistent i really give you credit for that and i said you know what.
We have bad days everybody has a bad day and because of that i don’t hold grudges i don’t i had fights with well.
Half of the people in here didn’t talk to me for days right that’s all right we just had a disagreement the next day everything is good.
A little bit about me is that i like to talk to everybody about everything.
And when i was down watching to see one of the people that i would have dinner with quite frequently you at the end of the session center session you be going late into the night.
Any be your midnight or whatever so you go to the senate hs cafeteria and have a little meal.
So you eat with all kinds of interesting people i had dinner with its center dashes several times are or senator lot or whoever.
Center well stone was one of the most enjoyable people to have a conversation with the member center well minnesota.
He was willing to talk about any question that you dare to ask him if you said tell me exactly how you think this works where you can give everybody everything.
And there is not going to create a disincentive for them to actually produce themselves in you have an hour long conversation about that and you have this banter back and forth and that’s really how you learn from each other.

[1:23:37] And so that’s a good example because well stone really did speak to like i lived in minnesota for flight seven years and.

[1:23:47] You know he wasn’t icon to the working class there and collect your thoughts about with what color people that respect from that same group that feels marginalize the flick that,
he he was not really spoke to that democrats still same data over there amongst them you know if you get into a conversation with people about well stone it’s slip covers flowing even years later and the people that disagree with that and that’s that’s,
that’s a part of government that i inspire to be a part of i was amazed that i went to.
Here to talk about very tough issues and nobody wanted to have a conversation.
It was a strange thing it was bought to eat we can have our own conversation you de with somebody and they would wanna change the subject to solve.
Yeah seven intellectual curiosity.
And an to be able to dive in the problems and then learn then you go home and you do you go to bed and you wake up,
two in the morning your mind is going a thousand miles an hour that’s how you solve problems but you have to kinda get that started right.
That’s how those conversations with well stone with that would happen you can do business with people like paul well so you can be this far apart.

[1:25:04] If you could have that center dash on the other hand the reason i was involved in.

[1:25:10] The campaign against him is that he would say one thing and washing dc a different thing in soup in south dakota.
And you did ask him and he would basically tell you what you wanna hear you talk from the heart to tell people what you believe.
And then you defended i just tell people what i believe.
And then i wait for the stage to get big enough so that i can defend i promise you.
At the right time i will share everything i know about this and offer a solution that will work.

[1:25:47] I’m not there yet i mean there’s there’s so so in case this is a good place to and so if you if you are.

[1:25:55] Blessed with success and you get the nomination and from the nomination get elected to congress where you what me you talk about this at the form and meaning are you.
Are you planning to be as open as you are safe here in the studio with us still and then how are you going to prevent yourself from becoming a one of the swamp creatures yeah so.

[1:26:21] The.

[1:26:27] The the last question first is that i am who i am.
Ima it anybody that know has no meaning including senator chrysler ii quits repressive office because i was frustrated with the bureaucracy i predicted that he would lose the next election.
Because he wasn’t relating to the p.
And it was a frustration and he was in office what twenty two years and i want to not run yeah he you,
what happens is you kind of lose touch with just the people right so that the national to my mean.
Yeah just rest and so that’s a but all on it but i just i’ve always.
Told people what i believe and it’s not always worked out well for me to put career wise or whatever you know i wanted.
I want to work in in government when i was twenty two.
Because i thought that we should try to change things in a more drastic fashion for conservative values.
And that’s not the system that was a part of it and so i i i when out of it.
And then i try to get involved in this in center tunes office it or when he was running.
I announced i was going to the little known fact or if you knew this but i don’t know i was going to run for the us senate.
Before to announce to run for ten national i do not know that is so i started taking as around the paper the state i took out.

[1:28:05] Probably five thousand or dollars worth of ads in different areas of and i pick fights with send international.
And i’m trying to point out that he’s living in a three million dollar home in in dc and is driving around nineteen seventy eight oldsmobile and his wife just,
wealthiest lots utilizing wasn’t the wealthiest lobbyist and all appointments ryman in that he said that he was the he was honored by the navy raul for being the champion for pro choice and in,
presentation sisters would write letters to people saying that he with that as well as a pretty good size to position so i am,
talked about that and i thought well gentility did get in the race he shouldn’t be talking about negative stuff somebody else should our it as a result.
Of that.
Turn my name into a male porn website for the next five years of my life to okay that’s whatever tight now you take daniel tap you dot com it went to the action shot.
Google and kidding not serious super low,
and so someone answers for a nineteen what would that does it below the belt be then before same forms to santorum would have to it up into that come.

[1:29:27] Sorry but it just like it’s it’s one thing coming early collected public figure but your just running a primary at that i but that’s.
So i guess that tells you i just have nuclear fuel rods of of energy that i just stand up for what i believe in and if you want to hit me of it daily cuz once they hit me or do right now you daily beast are.

[1:29:52] What i do i been down and drug through all kinds of stuff you’re not gonna change who i am i just staying in a fight to defend my values and i believe in this time so i never thought that i could get elected.
In office because i was too strongly opinionated that i wanted to fight for my ideas but president trump the trump of fact is that people are listening right now and they want people even if they disagree with you.
They want people just looking in the eyes and tell the truth.
This is who i am this is what i believe and just stand there and defend it as president trump does everyday he sd he’s getting hit by a russian collusion story the democrats the media pop culture saturday night live.
But doesn’t get hit by fbi the deep state and the republicans than the mainstream establishment republicans.

[1:30:48] He’s world leaders use your like new england’s establishment republican that you know republican party is a big tent party with a lot of different like subgroups it i think we talked about that because it was a bunch.
But yeah the establishment one of the like ne region is really against me and the right cuz he comes from new york.

[1:31:11] And the intervention of the coolest intervention the idea that we can you know tyler’s jean put in up some sort of like what they’re talking about and serious is quite amazing that you’re going to remove the side and then what.
Who’s gonna take over with already learned their lesson and lydia and i ran would hope so will.
But that’s not theirs that the workers power dream team that pass of this was to go to war nancy pelosi,
john mccain lindsey graham a day older always the contraction every one of them that’s for that’s right and i was for.

[1:31:48] I bought the idea that you could bring peace or that bring freedom to our people you can’t you have to fight for your own freedom.
That’s with the lessons of all this past twenty or thirty years and taught us is that you have to fight your own battles you have to give to you to win your own battles and is coming in there and dropping bombs thirty thousand feet.
Does it help and and i guess.

[1:32:16] My thought is is that i would like to go to washington and i would like to be a leader to talk about tough issues.
And the more interviews i get to do with gas like yours them or in some time we might be able to get this into an hour long interview as opposed to a two hour long.
You get better and better and better talking about very controversial stuff and when you do you lead on that issue.
What happens when politicians of the dodge every issue.
And they never leave any issues and that’s how you get trillion dollar deficit four trillion dollar budget twenty one trillion dollars in debt.
There’s no difference between republican democrat right yeah that’s real question.
Okay i did yeah i could see you pretty much always what’s your take on this this most recent budget that you let you set it,
i’m sitting here in an old plate fiscal conservative i just look at this budget we passing on lake,
so what was the difference between republicans and democrats in congress are so far it’s looking at as in if you look at everything in life is a negotiation.
Imagine that this is a huge negotiation and then you have to have a drop dead date you have to pass by this.

[1:33:35] Or else what you shut the government down the right.
Imagine if your size says that were never going to shut government down okay so then the goal for the other side is just push it to the end.
And get to the very last day is a well i guess we gotta make a decision as to what happens all,
you have you just installed a christmas tree you just load up the christmas tree and use you get past the also the better answer is to say no,
we’re going to shut the government down we’re gonna have tough discussions were gonna have tough decisions and we’re going to defend our positions now.
In my race do you think dustin johnson is going to be able to do.
Even john thriller mike reynolds will they be able to stand and defend.
Post positions and other career politicians they don’t want controversy these are there they’re controlled by fear.
Because at one time newt gingrich should close down the government,
and remarkably one more seats in the room in the set the next legislation or the next really fees historically people taking some of the wrong lessons from that but that’s the lessons they taken that were never gonna shut the game down.
I look at it is saying.

[1:34:52] I am deathly scared the reason i am running is we have a trillion dollar deficit of four trillion dollar budget my friends my my relatives of my relatives friends.
Have invented amazing products that are national or worldwide products and they’re afraid to invest their own money in their own businesses right now because they don’t believe in the system.
Okay when you break down the system where people stop investing in it and start believing it.
Whole thing the music ends and there’s not enough chairs that’s the that’s my fear the reason i’m calling is that we have to have.
Tough decisions we have to make tough decisions or else they’re gonna be made for us and when they’re me or as its gonna be ugly.
Alright well i’m gonna have to call it in for so we found out today that new tapioca is a talker,
that’s not getting a room full of talkers i appreciate you anyone that the time to listen i appreciate.
State senator nude happiest time thank you very much thank you very much is good what i like to think you i have i will confess i have criticize you on my website super come in the past okay but i have found you.
Extremely transparent and forth right we’re not agree on everything but really enjoyed talking with you tonight and,
just really impressed with how you presented yourself and think you very much for coming i was so pleasure to have you here to talk when you said as well like about podcasting that’s long form i like to get into the that com.

[1:36:29] The complexity of bigger issues in this was really nice to have so it and i enjoyed every minute alright so you wanna give a quick shout for your.
Facebook and what not yet and social media websites or is i’m everything is really i try to put everything on facebook of consequence,
so just meal tap you on facebook but www dot neil tap you dot com is where we can have,
what’s the video and and so yeah three weeks left before the selection signing in june fifth so if you live in,
south dakota we have relatives live in south korea tell them to make sure they are registered anywhere in the am but think they wanna vote for temp do they have to be republican but get registered and try to travel the primary vote is on june fifth.
So far i don’t think you so much and absolutely.