Macabre Grimoire Chapter 3 Dreams
Hosts Ari Show, Robert Mehling, and Travis Nye
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Dream interpretation is the process of assigning meaning to dreams. In many ancient societies, such as those of Egypt and Greece, dreaming was considered a supernatural communication or a means of divine intervention, whose message could be interpreted by people with these associated spiritual powers.
In modern times, various schools of psychology and neurobiology have offered theories about the meaning and purpose of dreams. Most people currently appear to interpret dream content according to the Freudian theory of dreams in countries, as found by a study conducted in the United States, India, and South Korea.
One of the earliest written examples of dream interpretation comes from the Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh dreamt that an ax fell from the sky. The people gathered around it in admiration and worship. Gilgamesh threw the ax in front of his mother and then he embraced it like a wife. His mother, Ninsun, interpreted the dream. She said that someone powerful would soon appear. Gilgamesh would struggle with him and try to overpower him, but he would not succeed. Eventually, they would become close friends and accomplish great things. She added, “That you embraced him like a wife means he will never forsake you. Thus your dream is solved.
In ancient Egypt, priests acted as dream interpreters. Hieroglyphics depicting dreams and their interpretations are evident. Dreams have been held in considerable importance through history by most cultures.
Dreams can occur anytime during sleep. But most vivid dreams occur during deep, REM (rapid eye movement) sleep when the brain is most active. Some experts say we dream at least four to six times per night.
Studies have shown the importance of dreams to our health and well-being. In one study, researchers woke subjects just as they were drifting off into REM sleep. They found that those who were not allowed to dream experienced:
Lack of coordination
Tendency to hallucinate
Many experts say that dreams exist:
Help solve problems in our lives
If you go to bed with a troubling thought, you may wake with a solution, or at least feel better about the situation.
Sigmund Freud believed dreams are a window into our subconscious. He believed they reveal a person’s:
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[0:26] They are very welcome to convert one chapter three today we’re talking about dream interpretation of dreams.
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Wow thank you have the x and the really good thinking.
So everybody have you and get into your stuff for the natural though and i’ll if nobody objects i need to jump right into just a little bit of background for everybody before we get into the actual dream interpretation here,
dream interpretation is the process of assigning meaning to dreams in many ancient societies such as those of egypt increase dreaming was considered a supernatural communication r means divine intervention.
[1:35] I was message could be interpreted by people with these associated spiritual powers.
In modern times various schools of psychology and neuro biology have offered theories about the meaning and purpose of dreams.
Most people currently appear to interpret dream content according to forty in theory of dreams this is based on a study conducted in united states in the south korea.
Amazing to freud influence like that far out but i mean yeah it’s like is the foundation for all psychology so is that make sense we spent a lot of time on dreams.
[2:08] Let’s see one of the earliest written examples of dream interpretation comes from the babylonian epic of gilgamesh which has made of reference before is like one of the oldest human stories that we have that,
that made it to modern times illustrated and acts fell from the sky people gathered around it in at duration worship.
Gilgamesh through the acts in front of his mother and then he embraced at like a wife his mother,
mean son interpreted the dream she said that someone powerful with soon appear gilgamesh would struggle with him and try to over power him but he would not succeed eventually they would become close friends and accomplish great things she added.
That you embraced him like a wife means that you will he will never for sake you that’s the dream is solved.
And if you know the epic of gilgamesh they’re talking about enkidu his plate best friend like to you know those two are like batman and superman words like they’re gonna like fight at first and then they come together and there like basically the batman superman of babylonian all.
So it is in clearly a reference to a new.
Is that you you will find out we see the men is an electrical does it usually involves me temple prostitutes is the.
Six your marriage okay for the rest oh well played well played sir.
[3:39] Speaking in ancient egypt preece after this dream interpreters hieroglyphics depicting dreams and their interpretations are evident.
Dreams are held a considerable importance in heat throughout history it by most cultures.
I’m getting a little bit into the the science of dreams dreams can occur at any time during sleep but the most vivid dreams occur during ram or rapid eye movement sleep.
When the brain is most active some experts say that we dream at least four to six times per night i have heard that.
[4:13] Studies show me importance of dreams to our health and wellbeing in one study researchers what subjects up just as they were drifting off into rem sleep.
They found that those who are not allowed to dream which,
jesus christ yeah plan that exuberance asshole is that sounds like the beginning of a creepy pastas it will take with your dreams like its phone at a blood saying cassette tape when of like,
swimming hole in the ground that was the laboratory is rates yeah,
he is what is and isn’t a creepy pasta but up in these actual studies,
here’s what i found the not being able to dream causes increase tension anxiety depression difficulty.
Lack of coordination weight gain and at the fun one a tenancy to loose a,
because this immediately makes me think of the episode of star trek the next generation way back in the day of where they all get infected with something that makes the can dream so all the episode the key,
i mean it was like super creepy like waking dreams or hallucinations of the worst one was the,
did they pick it up from doing this like recovery operation were like a hole in the colonists at night so she’s in this hangar with all these bodies covered in blankets.
And she just like looks up from the one she’s working with or whatever and they’re all the stuff still covered but they’re all sitting up by all of them i probably saw that and was like,
ten was without air and that is scared the shit like royal in that was star trek which is living g tv show though is but that’s the vein of figuring out that was the cause was that none of them to dream.
[5:55] We can’t reach rem sleep in so the world of slowly going insane it was causing the accidents all the shipping was nations from.
Let’s see many experts say that dreams this to help solve problems in our lives incorporate memories process emotions.
And stay help you if you go to bed with trouble thought you may wake with the solution or at least feel better about the situation no going back to what freud said about dreams.
He believed that dreams reveal people’s unconscious desires their hidden thoughts and motivations.
Basically he talk like they were expression of all the stuff that you want to do what you really wanna do but can’t because society won’t let you share progress.
Yeah there’s a my dreams are clearly not that was apparently i wanted like explorer like really creepy shit yeah rainy life.
Well i do most of hot gas that’s creepy shit arabia.
The dreams park hold it might soften and that’s all of that.
Is michael and i was going to do that to my psychology degree the consensus was about trimming is that is basically just your brain filtering out.
You know the crap that you go through the draft day is evidence of and i seen in like my own dreams about okay that’s what this is but why did filter it that way take what is wrong with my filter that has the you know sorted.
[7:32] And then but then there’s also do that just like the fuck c,
when is no list to the strength of the wake up and you’re just like what the boss lady in do i to connect with what use is.
I dreamed i was on a vampire and.
Actually drinking people’s blood and i have no interest in vampire they didn’t bulbs the twilight series i mean that might cause that the vampires probably light buffet the vampire slayer notice when time.
Was it washing and had a honey to wash that that was honestly i had no reference for this.
And is like okay filter with ron late what is going on here than the other stuff to worry get visitation dreams you now.
And what’s the visitation so visitation dreams are win eleven who is crossover will visit you in a dream and the dreams are creepy,
well yes no so it depends on the content of the dream because sometimes it really isn’t them but then the other times he really is them and you’ll know that it’s that it’s a visitation dream because it’ll feel.
It’ll feel very real you be able to have an actual conversation like you’ll be able to.
Ask the question the one asking have a conversation the one half it’ll feel like the middle smell like then it’ll.
[9:07] It’ll like just envelope almost your whole senses,
i had my first visitation dream when i was eighteen my great grandfather had passed away and my parents are going through a rough divorce i was hacked going in senior high schools i have a bunch of stress article hyman life well.
I’ve been crying myself to sleep for and how many nights in a row and then just there’s very upset all the las vegas was the first person that a little closer than they actually passed cell.
I have a dream with him in it where i.
Eighth get from my bed in my bedroom and walk into the living room and he’s laying down on the couch almost like its a simulated funeral home all over again which kinda freaked me out and i was like.
What is this and display and just pulls all hearing how’s it going on like.
Is this real or is it you cuz yachts israel fall on my deck while your dead though but.
Where are you right now and he just like won’t little difficult to say where i’m at right now and i tell anthony to work through but i just want you to know that you’re happy so sad about the time but that’s okay you can you can line.
And i’m like but i really miss you i don’t know what to do and he’s like they don’t worry about it just pray you know this focus on happier things and you’ll start to feel better and sell.
[10:38] I was like okay and i traded more information from him about where exactly it was he because and will.
I thought for sure he’d heaven or purgatory or something like that for use of dreaming me did you know you were during all that i was injured during this and then.
And his body he was very vega i couldn’t get an answer out of him so is eventually just his her drop the issue and the music will you know it’s time to go now so mike okay well i love you and then i woke up immediately.
And my aunt hired bedrooms mel like him i need.
Super strong smell where i was late what is email it in i don’t have anything of his in my room shirt so it was just like i couldn’t.
He only went out i try to figure out where this whole coming from that was so intense and then i was able to go back to sleep while.
I went so i was there when i have a slab on obviously the listeners that tickets will that make him and i was working in the school office as one of the existing secretaries and so,
the preset and the teachers at all filter every office through the author of a period and one day with our school priest came into the office and i was like hey,
access is question because i did not to go to meet you somewhere by that your dad great grandfather talk to who you go to go your cat that you go your priest do you figure it out and.
[12:11] And ask them about it,
and he uses a this is a dream is nobody on display for you do you like flying.
Moment and your husband has bullshit like.
No way would break up the time of day he was a two minute conversation and music is,
at the little jaded gonna say line of your excuse me i have to go before his ritual from skynet think i was the gas so,
i really talk to bunch of other people and discuss talk with more people at the age of eighteen and nineteen i found that,
people who have visitation green and then i had a little more research into it news since like no one has a genuine experience,
did is a graph is that wasn’t fully the experience i wanted but it was the best that happened so so yeah so visitation is there.
I’ve only ever had two that i know of that one and i have the other one so so yeah isn’t it doesn’t happen very slowly,
three sorry she’s okay soppy size will always on have anything together it’s basically like a committee that meets like every stain.
Can we talk about one of two not like the frequency of which i have a very far apart but not the pronoun do we have a fantasy football league with.
[13:46] Well i was in the dream is what i should he.
But i was so i was reading about this news book i read called the.
Journey of our souls and it is not a nickel destiny of our souls is both written by dr michael newton who’s sa psychologists and he’s been past life regression on his patients and,
he acts accidentally regressing me to a soul level and so is it just the price of his books so he,
he paper dressing people to their solo he was able to find out more information any able to help them heal lake.
Yow old injuries and larry out of depression anxiety.
[14:32] Tyrell organ issues like basically things that happen than in past lives and now of trent having transmitted and occur in life those kind of the very fast even when they’re all he stays so it’s not just lay.
Some for for a medium regular people on this sunday the man science saying.
[14:51] I was just trying to help you relax and then using the start talking about past life from all a sudden it’s a reno doing past life regression to have a positive result and that’s the office after her anybody am items will,
continue doing it and i residues little and i don’t know what to do with the stuff i guess does that make it look so that the western,
can you explain what that means regressed someone to a soul level cousin as a new but i’m just totally like slightly kill them and bring them back i was like does he still have his memories so okay so,
we we all of butter all spirit with all her soul.
And when our souls have had many lives in so we need you a past life regression on somebody your taking them back to previous lifetime and when they do let well what’s.
What happens in the truck but you have in between time between linear soul a two in your soul be,
this is the last you’ll break room just like you go get yogurt or something and then come back what happens in that in between time when you’re not sold a reversal be your actually,
your your soul and your somewhere between and i people having people call it whatever you wanna call it so they there’s this whole sold round.
And that’s where you go to the with your social group you figure what your gonna put you’re gonna be in your next letter in the mail female if you’re going to universal group.
[16:25] He is over he has seniors over like this is all on.
So yeah thirty this’ll rumor has soulmate is not display is,
what people say so many of the prisoners was america’s actually you multiple soul mates where they is not just like person he marries also the person that the knowledge are friends with or are they your siblings with their,
email mother father whatever on.
What’s the point of this is is that dude in doing the solberg russians he found out that,
set alarm for a dream visitation to happen,
all of these elements have to be lined up just right your your stages sleep past the jesse reyna soul and if your vibration has to be just for a little so it’s that’s why it’s not working every day.
Current every night occurrence we’ll have a visitation dream that’s the profound whatever mean to sell.
[17:27] So so that’s,
but they didn’t under your ball but don’t let her dreaming the visitation tree i mean i’ve heard of people seeing dead people of dreams sir but no there was like a whole like,
saying in theory around and write and and i do whatever just make sure that your listeners know that if you your thing i alway hesitation the ones that really scared the shit out of me there is there are,
if it doesn’t come from a place of love and if it doesn’t come from a place of meaningful miss to then it’s not a visitation like it if you eleven the pain came back to you and their bleeding and screaming and crying does not,
it is not visitation very impressed that is amazing and that’s that’s not even that’s on them so.
Size one and makes that clear because of because i have had clients come to me and say like what my love when he was still hurting look mingles at nine on the other side,
they are healthy they’re holier sometimes are younger sometimes a fair he just do depends on but they have to deal with and their current lifestyle and is that’s.
What’s that sorry to whom or where learning is as.
Residence much about it so yeah and then you yell in your prophetic dreams and you have a pic.
Okay i’m not doing this.
Perfect thing doesn’t specifically mean you dream about something that hasn’t happened yet so screens is exactly that is usually on something that hasn’t happened yet a predicts something that’s to to come i would have prophetic dreams.
[19:09] Constantly when i was a kid and there is bullshit was those kids that leaving a very lake.
You know impactful life you know i would go about things are gonna happen the next day at school or sometimes i have only as it was a week and state.
On the playground exist in their by visual goal when i would see the scene unfold before my eyes and then come back and i would.
Then it will happen if you miss their sometimes days later his dependant cell.
So those are prophetic dreams and then you had a few of those when i was little yeah just like i don’t know what what was going on but it like i remember being at this one hospital fall.
And we were like waiting for a car for for mama because it when i was a kid was a common thing sounds interesting grandma to dialysis,
and we were little we just run along with flashing like i always tripped out here in for dialysis tuesday wednesday tuesday evening and i’m,
are the weather tuesday thursday or whatever and now i just it.
So i was like laying in the backseat but looking up out through the window and there was like a very distinct airplane going over head as a baby is more deja blue but i could swear.
That being cool looking up seeing that airplane travel through that window i could have sworn that like i had dreamed that before,
but it seems that exact same airplane in the exact same spot that i was laying down in the back of the car in this parking lot,
and yeah yeah sure that stage of work that’s because i don’t know i don’t remember the specific dream.
[20:44] At the time but i could have sworn it that that’s where i’d seen great yeah that’s that’s probably my vin diesel but a but i had instances where he,
i deserve so often.
That i was so sure i dreamt it so i started recording down my dreams because i need to prove to my parents that know all this was a dream that i had and this is how i know and.
I live i will record i never actually,
get off that happens you don’t have your dream travel with you entry level analyst happening fit soul but i was able to prove to myself that okay i’m not crazy i am actually dream these prophetic dreams and sell.
But i but i even deserve late.
[21:33] Handle anything that people do you have days of new videos of the people to perfectly in there that are very much these other fish moment so it took about,
prophetic dreams train visitation dreams there any other classes wish classifications of dreams should know about things funny things there’s also a quiet over there travis.
I’m taking it all in.
Are you a movie on dreams and space long as i remember ever having injury and allow really don’t.
I don’t think i sleep enough to have surgery it’s all that’s left is light,
your sleep cycle is just totally shot is not set is also a calzone with hearing classification there’s also.
[22:26] I mean there’s there’s nightmares i mean what i think we all have had there’s what else is there.
Any people talk about you don’t sleep paralysis that’s a completely different that was in the cover on a different be its own episode when we get to that right all recurring dreams.
Switch the streets of it’s winter i have a clear is when i was in high school is really turn it up like french kissing,
so i have one about believer in french kissing me and i was like it happened so,
often when i was just laid off making molecule in the living room when using only kiss using up a lot and then he was like oh so yeah they,
that was that was the weirdest referring to myra had an healing dreams signal dreams.
The signal dreams help you to how to solve problems or make decisions in your waking life.
Never had those all the trees holy crap i have everyone’s that i wanna make a new movie cuz it was just like.
Epic yes yeah so epic as in like you like lead an army on a distance like.
Son of a bitch i’m getting screwed in madrid apart they are okay so what is definition here is a pic dreams,
also you for it was great dreams cause my dreams or in new minas dreams are so huge so compelling and so did,
that you cannot ignore them the details of such dreams remain with you for years as if you just read that last night because of a couple of these days i have these dreams possess much beauty and contain many architectural some allergy.
[24:09] Wake up from such a dream you feel that you have discovered something profound or amazing about yourself or about the world it feels like a life changing experience experience yeah.
Well i don’t know about life changing experience that it definitely was like.
Don’t have way it is one of those dreams a driver when you know knots with because you talking about and it’s so hard to like talk to other people about dreams cuz no one can you know generally unless it’s something cool or creepy years after like where’s,
this cuz specific conversation about dreams then it’s like.
That’s okay whatever is left i can go to work on monday and be like i’ll have you got.
You’re about the stream had no what does that mean that oh yeah who was out here it.
Orders progressive dreams where dreams occur we have a sequence of dreams that continue over a period of nights i had this the do check the dream continues we left off on the previous night.
And sessions are problems all leaders help us were different options and various approaches to problems situation serious as like serial story telling.
Dude that is awesome yeah and new filter and seven between myself and my brother unusual to describe when two people have the same dream,
michigan’s maybe planned it mean that you can actively work for driven one dream scenario call it is a way to improve communication build trust and believe this program at the same time the dream the same dream my little brother and me.
[25:40] We both drank that like.
He was driving like basically he was driving a car he was like eight years old as he was a leader produces during and.
On his it so that there’s a traffic cop standing in the middle of a row directing traffic and has like that is so weird i had a dream that i was it,
traffic backed up in so you is why did you bring me the link self okay nice is it boring conversation that you brushing your teeth before going to school.
So yeah so yeah those are there old.
All false awakenings have you ever have those now only got i have their.
The fuck you what i dreamt this wonderful business what epic and i had it.
What’s the code to her okay and she says i can’t stand the after having already made that pretty clear by the courts to preference really and that was.
[26:48] They are now or something kg which is.
See i thought it wasn’t the ones who is no no you said you in spanish anyways that’s besides the point,
so in my dream i was at somebody’s house in the house is sold for a house and we’re eddie’s we have a family gathering and.
Play with the kids and be using and goes as they always did and then eventually headlight pack up and go home so it home and then,
send somebody mentioned me okay area going to twenty four hour smashing pumpkins concert housing what you even know bout that there will you better get that says a lot of times it gets cell,
they didn’t have any so then i went back and hold those of stressing out about it,
and then it went to bed and i woke up the next morning in my dream and and i was like freaking to get these tickets so and that going to this little store on the corner,
and there was this contest they are having you could win tickets itself a bottle i don’t like some the sodas or whatever insulated windows ticket to buy something like when a ticket and i ended up winning a ticket so um,
i would but the concert wasn’t until the next day so again away to bed or woke up on third day in dream world and,
show that to this concert like with a really for everybody else if i wanted to make sure that i had ample time but i see center center of and am.
As a looks like meet the band and given to fans of a go backstage for those who stupid the early for this concert and then i was able to enjoy.
[28:24] This fall concert and that was that was a green and that is always stuck with the dislike is so bizarre that.
I went to the the motions of late waking up getting dressed brushing my teeth like having a full day almost in dream world so yeah.
I’ll see the translator real-time.
Yeah the lakers probably twenty seconds when they have like a septic pneumonia and was blows my mind when i wake up at like its like for ten.
I don’t wanna be awake for at least another hour and go back to sleep and.
I have a dream or i swear i was in it for like a week you have a ten minute and it’s only been ten minutes it’s like something,
i know this is a yes or sleep time only problem is with that is that,
yeah that would be normally they were accepted state usually restful dreams so it’s usually like in the.
Okay so in fourteen minutes of biking if i can fall back asleep to recover from the week long.
Running from whatever was low when reading that tree when we were yeah yeah.
That’s very personal become so on and so kind that can county joins the category of training which i do.
[29:54] All the time you need interview dream dictionary tell you that.
But there is so yeah so then we once you wanna talk about your dreams race sure.
Travesty wondering is on your dreams yeah okay something is this okay or what was on.
Like i did popcorn three of us okay goes on the idea was the title of the at that was not right.
Ebay but to me it feels that way because i is stuck with me my entire life.
It’s like every blade week or so i think about what is that mean that i have had for a while but is like almost every week i had the same exact dream.
So the only way to explain the dream is that imagine my washing on tv like it was a camera so that so is used in fairway was nothing but white with a single dot.
When does black okay the kindle zoom in on that you live there yet.
And started trying to the right making a whining but it still would go longer since i claim sneak seven dollars data center making alignleft.
I am in a starter pull back sl and get their.
And then all of a sudden like a b and fuel comfort peasley snacks to three one always go like.
[31:29] Massively rapids wilson’s scratches areas all over the place.
Until i got claustrophobic feeling oh to start amaze me in on the whole cluster stuff to where like i almost feel trapped in this whole mess of clothes that line yeah.
And pull back alley california for work related citigroup know that.
Play is like right in between by blacks always station is working and the.
Which is always at your phone to scan it she exactly.
He did that is pretty much live with a dream inside every time like it just like.
Is your life smooth and nice and clean and go crazy and sporadic.
Pull back in the news i was watching so when you look at the eyes.
Do you get a sensor like it if the i belong to a man or woman or,
maybe yeah but it is very just rough scheduled solidifies she says it like its definitions le cartoonist eyes yeah.
Do you feel i.
What are your feelings like when you see the eyes like a personal viewing later you scary happy sad and inches are you like what you can get the cd is it the whole street has come just completely neutral for the most part yeah i know your there.
And is it like the size of the more pocahontas with the chaotic part of it has only got ray.
[33:06] Play the blend the chaos lines just stopped working for so long as like i don’t care about anything else you feel like me sometimes lake.
Things are going on in your life at that time or maybe the water was twelve media things in your life kinda chaotic.
You know it’s crazy like i could even put on timelines yeah i have these dreams like a jean mercier soul age.
[33:34] Yeah it’s i don’t know it’s weird because like for me has a early yeah cuz i started having dreams about snow when.
Whenever i have cleaned really emotional time with some has b six thousand c la snowblower if there’s any flights to have a motion or stressed when i do about snow all.
I’m so maybe like the wine for us like things are out of control maybe it’s time you to like focus.
[34:04] But at the same time the feels peaceful the beginning and then the line is kind of crazy and that was happening and doesn’t use you manually always and i,
what’s that mean eastlake of me in the ass you know,
all makers to or maybe not any medias me because you think about how i feel about the color white how you feel about the color black and blue adjusted,
you can email and then you know the feeling all of those things and then think about what is the does the eye look is looking older persons irian numbers and il.
[34:46] What are you asking yeah.
There is so basic yeah it’s hard it’s kinda tingly pinpointed guess i usually.
Can i see it is leaking and clock are in for rich old ladies that big super saturday in the eyes glasses yeah.
[35:12] It depends on how you flip person with your eyes and all of the amenities just.
Slow down and focus has a very tender the paper active pencil yeah yeah.
Very true that you because the traffic like different things like the show’s like it so.
There’s probably some creativity there is.
[35:37] Changes in on something i don’t know like a perfect day for me is just sitting in her room doing nothing being.
No thinking and missing baking yeah yeah.
[35:52] If you can a lasagne has his industry is user visit when you’re here and i remember me and i’ve probably had like that one gb.
[36:03] Thirty or forty times she’s which is kids roddy it has he seen so much probably program for clothes yeah charges all know that i’m a very google.
[36:17] Is find something that very easy president friends brisa and i can not find it have a very specific vision.
I did not know is in the bay the hands of the paper in miami personal.
Happy for fisher do you know pat said she is your friend here so.
Set up the date because.
Because usually it’s okay for the friendly ask about the different elements of the dream because there’s this girl who does catering to be and,
she said that there is really old guy that sat on her bed and finally cleared her and she fuse in kansas carries you ever thought of just lay but.
I didn’t feel like it was just a how she described the owners the only while.
What are you what is the old man look like he had a spectrum of mike but why you think you sitting on your bed and she has thought about it and said it.
Set my question it was there make you think that you have a fear of getting old,
this is a holy shit so it really does that simple words in this case like needs to focus they maybe it’s like me you have a date this guy europe maybe you’re not now maybe,
but the tendencies very tender of all over the place that’s very possible.
Ends any i’m not even gonna hit me i’m not like formally to use.
[37:47] It’s full interpretation and i need a full size we need to get on the road so have.
[37:57] Play the song dreaming of flat land and yes or no.
Where yeah avidly flatland got it was a reference on the big bang theory and let.
Damn and the nigga flatland.
[38:18] Not prepared for this and it’s a book by and when abbott and abbott pets here in.
[38:28] It says flatland a romance of many dimensions is a satirical novel.
Nah novella by the schoolmaster and wind at at first pollution eighty four.
[38:43] See what is this a relay sheets interacting with each other and it’s just.
Flat piece of paper kind of i guess i don’t i don’t know what it yeah is very link is the theory of stacie think.
It’s like a master piece of science and mathematical fiction is delightful delightful unique and highly entertaining satire that is chime readers for more than one hundred years.
The work of english clergyman.
[39:13] Babe easily and when describes the journeys of a square in math and a mathematician and resident of the two dimensional flatland where women,
then the straight lines are the loneliest of shapes and where man,
or feuding were meant this is so small to read where men have any number of size depending on their social status so.
This is pretty strange occurrences that raymond contact the poster geometric forms square has adventures in space land three dimensions light land one-dimensional plan mention so.
[39:47] Is silica combine these guys yeah with those eyes.
[39:54] So and it has internet connection but not on definition right yeah okay that was very obvious that is that kind of looks great place yet with but very vaguely just,
let’s catch of them yeah interesting refrigerator that marker.
Rate the food gifts.
[40:20] Are you you’re weird weird thing is not he the to call the doctor.
[40:32] Lol what is your mom’s friend re the hoe verizon is my friend yeah sure it the circus.
Yeah so it’s not seem so you try to figure out which one on this friday,
oh i just recently seven of my weirdest ones like i meet with willy for income can figure out where to start okay what’s next jesus christ,
[41:09] So i have a recurring dream and i don’t know if it’s like recurring exactly but it’s just of super super common theme of the settings can be very different and the environment and stuff but,
they all have in common that was having this dream where i am.
Moving into like a new house with our new apartment or something like that and it’s always.
Super old and run down but the flight floors that i am going to live on the first and second floor are pretty nice is why i am putting up with it.
But up above.
It just keeps going up and up and up for ever and each floor is a little crappy year like folder and run down yeah and they’re super haunted.
Like all those like floors are like crazy on it and there’s like no way to not like no one knows basically have how how high it goes.
Cuz i never make it past like five or six levels before and like i am coming back down or there’s there’s nothing nothing appear and then come back to my house is like did you see all the stuff there’s like i didn’t see any of that while i was up there.
And i have had that dream probably like once a month or more for like for ever.
Interesting how do you feel about feeding.
[42:32] He died in order not good because it feels like.
With eating nobody really knows how old they are going to be raise you don’t know how many floors there are in this building and.
Some people can’t can describe to you what they seen on certain floors the building because they bend that age i think is coming more metaphorical and i did you see there will no does he have been able to get to that for.
So him been there yet.
Wild did like you was gonna for for like life span for enlightening about the future yet.
[43:15] From the place is really good stuff that.
Some of shit sailing for adoption as well i’ve been as good as the hype formal,
we’re open up and nothing gets more more more run down which is true but reading your body tenses each year in a gauges because it starts off like its plate old but it’s,
fancy words like the parlor is polish wouldn’t start when not in the.
Cool staircase might the twenties or whatever and then as you go up it becomes more more like the old barn loft that is the planet earth just like there’s basically like.
The scaffold but just like support,
two by four and at least that would here to make it’s dirty and there’s a strong the ground and you can see little cracks of light through the wall and stuff like that and that’s just gets more more like that the further up you go.
So i don’t know who you think you think scan reading cuz i just that’s wild.
Yup that can it be that does make sense for me.
[44:19] I am in the other he in hiding in the journalists that’s a really good like it was going to pick something for to mean something is like,
who understood me figure out what the hell that means and then you’re like in like four minutes you let.
All i hear you’re thinking about aging sun of a bitch you blue blue that’s under wide open up your think your,
i don’t know your flight landing and means those three hundred him with am awesome now i know i was so hopeful okay so,
that was pretty fast lol you’re the one of the two other ones their super distinct this is one that,
like any of my college friends or might listen to this podcast will recall me wondering of security telling everyone about this is so fucked up yeah um,
one of the unit terrifying but is like okay set keeping with the theme of like going for ever yeah so,
it’s me my friend nick and my friend bart mush from the fraternity house that let me.
Yeah my best friends and were wandering around the mall of america except this mall of america seems to extend forever down and forever all,
which is like layers of shops and offices and stuff like that and where does water running there’s people all over the place and we’re just walking along and.
It is just like whatever you do don’t don’t steal anything and then.
[45:51] I turn around and eric matias head.
Is like animated acclaim asiana mayo missing in it the only thing i can think of is that you were the party’s begin ventura gets the.
The truck the truck or.
That’s turns out to be a monster whatever and she turns into those all the claymation horizon giant and lesser time and again that i have seen is always located for should i get even like money because it,
that looks so different cd in,
so here are his head is huge like i am right now you can see by holding my arms out like a full lake like that big.
Like a cartoon characters and is it like everything is pretty normal in size except for is always your superhero yeah and just goes.
[46:41] I’m not the ease and s s he says he gave his.
Pupils are the color color and black part of his eyes,
go from like huge would i able to sue her tiny as a kind of the chief and then the rest of the dream were trying to find this office that i need for some reason i don’t remember why we needed it,
the ball hit eric.
Well no i was running around like behind us and beside us what that stealing stuff from people like when they’re not looking and so he’s like the yes you just said that and then he’s there just like stealing from everybody and that’s the dream.
[47:26] Ten so i wonder.
Does it have how do you feel about him as the ira at the time all but now.
Last i heard he wasn’t doing so great he’s got a lot of like.
Mental health problems health problems and he,
he was willing guys got married like a senior year and then they moved cities in the house super nice and everything and he got a job in like an order for the department of defense like basically.
It was always kinda like it that point almost resentful just because he was being so successful and really knows life and i’m still the twenty something college with no job in reno girlfriend or anything i.
Still over and hang out with his.
You know his wife and his house with his like fancy new appliances everything else but after shortly after i stopped communicating with him their in the cities.
His life to leave like melted down where,
she divorced him and got everything and then they said he wasn’t coming at the part of its the fire him and another accounting job and so now i think he lives in like.
Pipe stone and his on my disability and he has all sorts of health problems so sad and he’s my age it’s like a it’s pretty brutal yeah yeah.
So he’s not a thief now it is in the dream he’s a thief yeah but he’s never likes.
[49:01] Because the being over something else but what else could the whirlpool you and how you feel about only thing i can think of is that he had a reputation for.
That being super nice to women oh okay sure and maybe that was something to to do with it like i say.
Rate be but kind of scary like take no and is into like using tricks like i give him for all of that but yeah and like.
Crap playing manipulative super manipulative dallas tell me that you for this week just tell a joke in the fraternity about.
He said of a box with a bottle of liquor apple schnapps and the little white rope,
and let you know we always picture yeah yeah yeah is that so okay so then you think of a thief and what you think of you think that the,
this is just some guy who steals mcguffey rd is just a criminal and also let me would manipulative fall under the aca,
set category to you yeah i guess that’s probably where that cell is acting so it’s just like so crazy to me some sake,
say super remember it because i distinctly remember thinking jesus his eyes are as big as paper plates yeah.
So i’m wondering paper plates setting huge.
Does the things that is very slow specific diane this dinner plate all the directly over head bowling ball.
[50:32] No bigger than that there is a figure also like i said he seemed almost like a cartoon image as normal seemed flat glass a paper plate is was almost like he was,
south park style account paper is south park style like animated fuse is very fake to you then it could be,
that’s almost native to see if you still comically fake,
in all and then he just kind of and manipulative person things that i’m not fit like will you kind of are manipulate you know cuz like you like to manipulate the old women of two.
So maybe that’s the war what is that as far as like the mall that is again it just feels more lake.
Its life in general like people and or levels are younger all higher levels older.
And everybody that’s on the same level and that’s it doesn’t clear interacting with your current.
Level of life which is larry which accents guess it was all people my age yeah.
My peers and say that were all not letting me looking for whatever we were looking at him like yo don’t you ask visit steal from me because you as opposed to the next that’s okay that’s the interesting part of the stealing.
They will what though the quantity items level was like he is just like a generic knowledge assign he was like stealing late you know what.
Something in a box and display in the window it just reaching around grabbing something on the display or like grabbing purses like that just like in the cartoon usually leave around like.
[52:06] Exactly that’s her exactly and this guy gets it up yeah.
It’s kind of ironic that wasn’t interaction of just like maybe like your subconscious calling out units and like this days and or a,
so maybe payton’s me and the babies and pets in a really pages them so your day he looks.
He’s so it stands out yeah and so yeah i guess that could be.
You know that makes sense i mean every office along the tree and be missing something to me who knows the circumstances were exactly at that time your having the treatment other than the details now,
i don’t even know that he had that i knew him well enough for him to have that reputation right great-niece who knows but.
So i got one word reminders for this was important because i turned into a short story and i’ll on a bunch of writing awards all it was of.
People like credit where like holy shit i have one one person in town who read it what like site that is gonna grow up to be the next stephen king and has like holy cow that’s heavy yeah i was happy okay so.
I hate it like a wake up in the morning i remember not seeing anyone or anything but i just like,
you know your routine i am in high school at this point so i just gonna throw on my clothes,
do my morning routine or you know whatever i get my car and i drive it its just like this out where it’s like snow is every liquor store cover workers melted a little bit and it’s overcast so very grey.
[53:45] But it’s enough that the roads are melted clear so i’m driving my my little mustang it’s time and i’m not having any trouble throat crystals melted off is um.
But i’m driving in to west into a little little school are in a class of nine long and,
but you know of a school building was rebuilt like in a eighties cuz that will happen to school fire sort of really nice mars is not the time and i pull up the parking lot,
or the street that will park on there was only a parking lot from.
[54:19] Totally empty my cart like the only one there other than my junker cars that i noticed are like a certain corner of the streets of basically it’s just dead i didn’t meet anyone start to realize that i didn’t meet anyone on the road.
I haven’t seen a human being like since i started and so.
But the sidewalk is it shovel off and it starts to looks really lightly snow and seven and woke up to the school windows are almost blacked over like super black and the doors are locked.
I can get in late oh okay and this is getting a little bit darker and little bit more snow and.
[54:58] Um yes i will that’s weird yeah so i get back in my car.
And i’m trying to figure out like where is everyone has no one main street in unit washington so that’s totally weird but i’m realizing that,
it’s a little too quiet leaving for washington freight it so it’s getting a letter of walking dead when rick wakes up thing works just like when the hell yeah and.
So then i drive back in the halfway point between my folks farm and was intended to school was grand richards house so i pull off they’re pulling seen deal but it’s not locked up just its dark.
There’s no power light something like the stuff yeah there’s no sign of grandma or grandpa in the house.
And you know for every that smells like it was super vivid dream yeah very real um,
it smells like them and everything else i pick up the phone receiver cuz pri cell phone so i’m like the sea like where the hell is everyone right and nothing happens dead.
Which were we’re out but this is back in the day were on earlier with the copper lines there even power off the lizard the snow lines of the stuff on fine sir yeah because we didn’t have digital phone set and.
So i’m like well that’s really weird so that.
And i remember watching the dream like watching myself and being like i’m way too cold for all this yeah and.
[56:34] So i go back i’ll get my car and start driving like to the farm and i get to so there’s a tree strip that wraps around the back of.
Oh that your tree-lined yeah there’s a tree line yet and.
You know like several of them so basically boxes off the forms they don’t see into the field behind some very long and then.
But there’s a big field behind grandpas house says so i’m apart of rolled oats passing by the field behind house and.
I don’t know why but i just look out on.
[57:10] This the snowy field is completely level and.
I don’t remember if i just stop and then walk out there or if there was a reason that i saw something or something that will motivate but yeah i did that’s not clear with reservation was,
you can the car and walk way out in the middle of a field and i start digging in the snow and i find.
One of my little sister katie’s toys for like common ones she plays with all the time when she sleeps she still at this point gas when she would’ve been like if you wanna play with a toy yeah would’ve been like not even ten i think yeah.
But with a little bit when i get in a fight and stuff like it has as i keep getting the snow and working my way i’ll keep finding warmer stuff on the snow buried.
And i’m just like what’s going on in and wake up says.
[58:07] Do you remember if you are having any sort of like.
[58:16] Hot i wanna see this little if i see it that way say nest is what i want to influence your answer okay so all.
Did you fight at all or having an emotional it engagement with her of any kind no where but it on a got along with her really well now with the faster parents that.
yeah yeah okay so i was the peace maker is so sisters love me and whenever they were getting into some incredibly vicious fights that was brought me and.
And me and katie have always had like you into the state we have a special on their clothes for siblings asher okay so i wonder was there anything that happened.
That was there like some sort of emotional fight or whatever in the house he put through the,
key in your sisters or parents or nothing nothing that i can remember cuz i was looking for something sir there cuz lake is usually i just idling really just learned this that water in any kind of form as it presents itself a dream is a sign of emotional all.
Think is waters type of the motions and.
So that’s what i think of when i think of snowball using with my hands is something emotional that i really with like that’s what it is for me,
but like how often do you dream of snow and what do you think of anything right now i think that’s the only dream i’ve ever had was no yeah.
[59:48] Yeah okay so you can the new beginnings or do you think of things dying like what kind what were you fall you think this notice and it,
just neutral yeah like nothing like it was snows on christmas turkeys know you dislike snow later interest share share,
cuz like this feeling kinda think of is like what is your what is your feeling on the season of winter and then.
Just the desolate niceville by the complete loneliness of.
Adjust the whole situation like it is totally completely alone and it sounds like you’re really digging up your best friend stuff.
You know you say what is this what yo like this totally alone and all you have left are does the memories of her as you know.
Of her past or present i guess i don’t know that’s kinda where i’m kinda thinking that the same time is late will you don’t feel specific way about.
But i’d say like looking back on it now as someone older is just like the lock isolation going on in that time yeah is very like it is very alone.
And like the places where you go to others people like a school like that shaft you,
that’s completely dark there’s no one there and then the the people that you know they’re your family they would go to great hey there’s something weird going on there not there,
and you can’t every talk to anybody else in the world and you just got the film easter being of your friends stuff lake as interesting wonder when hes the.
[1:01:22] Actually she recovered season.
Can toys membership in it really hard to tell if i’m projecting his study this was definitely eighteen yeah wrote this for seventeen yeah.
Wake up pretty sure i was worried i was eventually gonna find a body.
[1:01:45] Yeah me either early right did you write and you read the details on yours number of.
You will i thought about it like that the dream and screen like but i have trouble telling if i thought that the time.
Right right now looking back and just like i would have.
Maybe of watch to many horror movie since then but on like this is the part where you find the body wraps you probably because you don’t.
To see that in your dream and what a horrible thing to say out loud like he mom has weird dream about my sister dying yeah sounds like this isn’t simpsons treehouse of horror episode where the good morning burton.
[1:02:22] How did you sleep like i had a fire r i dreamed of a vision of my own fire hd is,
well that’s nice honey let no grass dinner and are grabbing lunch and let’s go to school you’re gonna miss the bus or while supplies when i woke up one morning and my mother all,
true but less than nothing because i might transfer money will happen in your three wishes that all you and i are fighting in general then my mom asked me what happened to me in years ago all died.
I won the died music all the way all of those off all the terrible things to your mom,
again we when you’re we file our business teenager so yeah but.
Dreams are we never know you said no so so how you feel travis where did you go into this capability you now feel like being there’s more dream interpretation than.
It just being get tv the brain equivalent of tv static is over anytime there’s things to interpret.
That it could mean something completely different different times your life just so like how you enter your right now i believe that has,
you sure it that way because it has meaning in her life so you interpret it like a piece of art and so.
To use in our look back at eleven something else you might be considered the same situation may be more conservative wife the lower school realize.
[1:04:01] Heres even if he for real fun interpretation,
yeah so damn i’m super intrigued browser vacations because that’s where a lot of the creative the most presentation stuff my shows come from so.
Yeah i’d cordless chapter show of.
To where it attaches very nice ice get their asses there awesome so yeah.
[1:04:31] Sorry a messenger.
[1:04:34] Hello miss me anyways i need to get to know you very soon to fully grasp the school.
And strapped dream here so her and starting before.
[1:04:50] But with the camera i have a strict dress to the crazy thing is because of her that was black and white color trees me some different yeah even though there’s only black and white if.
Color lights on in the house there’s a colored gasoline it’s kinda weird.
[1:05:08] New re flatland maybe we use the answers of that is really helpful in a weird way.
[1:05:18] I did this order for yeah he’s the weird.
[1:05:24] So yeah that’s all i got so thank you for joining us your recovery more and join us next week when will explorer.
Some other strange maybe us we are now when he goes to freeze this far into this chapter podcast thing that is messages the.
[1:05:46] That’s perfect that’s and that’s how we should have closed yet which is close to nice.
He should as part of some patriotic thank you so much for listening and good night.