Macabre Grimoire Chapter 8 The Carrington Event
Hosts Ari Show, Robert Mehling, and Travis Nye
Produced by Robert Mehling and TheSiouxEmpire.com
Voice Over by Dave Holly
Opening Theme Enhance Your Starry Night by Mouthful of Bees
“There was another display of Arora last night, so brilliant that at about one o’clock (AM) ordinary print could be read by the light. The effect continued through this forenoon, considerably affecting the working of telegraph lines. The Aurora’s currents were so regular from east to west that operators on eastern lines were able to hold communications and transmit messages over the line between the city (Boston) and Portland, the batteries being discontinued from the wire.” — The New York Times, September 3rd 1859.
The solar storm of 1859 (also known as the Carrington Event) was a powerful geomagnetic solar storm during solar cycle 10 (1855–1867). A solar coronal mass ejection (CME) hit Earth’s magnetosphere and induced one of the largest geomagnetic storms on record, September 1–2, 1859. The associated “white light flare” in the solar photosphere was observed and recorded by British astronomers Richard C. Carrington (1826–1875) and Richard Hodgson (1804–1872). The now-standard unique IAU identifier for this flare is SOL1859-09-01.
A solar storm of this magnitude occurring today would cause widespread disruptions and damage to a modern and technology-dependent society. The solar storm of 2012 was of similar magnitude, but it passed Earth’s orbit without striking the planet.
Past Power Failures in the past –
Northwest US and Canada –
August 14, 2003
On August 14, 2003, the electricity went out in a large swath of the Northeastern United States and Southeastern Canada.
The blackout affected the states of New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Vermont, Michigan, Ohio, and Massachusetts. About 50 million people were without electricity, some for as long as two days. Eleven deaths are attributed to the outage, and it is estimated to have cost 6 million dollars.
Federal authorities ruled terrorism out almost immediately but took longer to figure out what had caused the problem. The verdict – hot power lines sagged into trees and switched off, causing other lines to carry the extra burden. They couldn’t handle the load and tripped a cascade of failures. Systems that should have given an earlier warning of the growing problem failed. The US – Canada Power System Outage Task Force concluded, after a 3-month investigation, that a combination of equipment failure and human error was to blame.
San Diego – Sept 8, 2011
A major power outage on September 8, 2011 left 5 million people without electricity from the west coast, east to Arizona, and from Mexico north to Orange County, California. The outage lasted for up to 15 hours. The National University System Institute for Policy Research estimated the economic impact of the power outage to be between $97 million and $118 million.
Although the Arizona power company said the outage appeared to have been associated with an employee replacing a capacitor at the North Gila substation near Yuma, why this routine task would cause a failure was unknown. Whatever the reason, had the system performed as it should have, the outage would have been confined to the Yuma area. So it appears that it was possible a combination of human error and equipment failure.
From Lloyd’s “Solar Storm Risk to the North American electric grid” Executive Summary:
“The total U.S. population at risk of extended power outage from a Carrington-level storm is between 20-40 million, with durations of 16 days to 1-2 years. The duration of outages will depend largely on the availability of spare replacement transformers. If new transformers need to be ordered, the lead-time is likely to be a minimum of five months. The total economic cost for such a scenario is estimated at $0.6-2.6 trillion USD”
Keep some emergency supplies around; you never know when you’ll be left in the dark. Here are a few ideas.
A good supply of fresh batteries
Candles (long burning ones, in glass)
Lighters and/or matches
Propane or kerosene lanterns with fuel
Fuel for your generator if you have one
An old-fashioned phone that plugs into the wall
Car charger for your cell phones and mobile devices
Battery powered radio
Canned and dry food enough for several days at least (that’s bare
minimum really, the more you have the longer you can hole up at home)
Food for your pets or other animals
If you put your candle or lantern in front of a mirror, you can almost double the amount of light you get from it.
Really good quick overview video
“Solar Storm Risk to the North American electric grid” This report was written by Lloyd’s with research and analysis by scientists from Atmospheric and Environmental Research, Inc. (AER) Nicole Homeier, PhD, Director of Product Innovation and Senior Staff Scientist at AER Lisa Wei, PhD, Staff Scientist at AER.
Lloyd’s would like to thank Professor Richard Horne (Fellow, AGU, British Antarctic Survey), Michael Maran (Chief Science Officer Catlin) and David Wade (Underwriter, Atrium Space Insurance Consortium) for their input in the report.
[0:26] There was another display or something so brilliant at one o’clock a m ordinary printer to be read by the light.
Effect continued through this forenoon and certainly affecting the work of telegraph lines.
Your hours currents were so regular from east to wes that operators on eastern lines were able hold communications transit.
Messages over the line between this city boston and portland the batteries being discontinued for.
Or the battery speed,
the new york times september third eighteen fifty nine call robby walker sue a half gram why i’m here iso here with.
Million and travis night i feel like you might never met us before you sign in with a question my house like it has like as a patron from amanda slight film nervous.
We’re talking about the caring to the event that the light was a.
From the new york times like drive set in eighteen fifty nine and be sickly it’s.
Handle me i know it is a how do i mean.
[1:36] With solar storms attack cell after the dental custom box yeah so it’s like houses mesa lakes lucerne really affected everybody lake in a hundred years ago i don’t do math.
[1:49] How is suzy super lionel disagree was super lines in a vacuum leak walden time gas back in the olden days.
At the phrase and noise they can your kids see me like literally like the idea of the nineties is it that a lot to so i also ate.
Yeah i’d eventually reading about different like accounts and people outside of just around to six different sources of like that yeah this nice write up.
They call you you wanna.
[2:21] I can dive in and you guys can try wind surfing to start but does the people of brief idea of what it is so the carrington event also known as the solar storm of eighteen fifty nine was a powerful go magnetic solar store.
That says where the sunny jetted giant crumble mass ejection.
And hit the earth’s magnetosphere and the effect of the space with my nose fear is basically like an invisible force field that are.
Our magnetic poles and are you know nickel iron course planet.
Produces that protects us from cosmic rays and radiation and a whole lot of different stuff well.
It can only protect against so much and sometimes the solar storms the that we get hit directly where heard of a way that radiation is not like a huge issues looking gamma ray burst for just quit mucus all.
What happens in these particular cases where it’s like super powerful is that which is foreign of when we’ll get the radiation mariah missed your gets paint really powerfully with,
lots of electromagnetic interference,
basically like at the pier electromagnetic pulse where it’s he can do anything to conduct electricity is gonna pick up on some of these currents.
Is we just right there in the quote from the new york times back in the eighteen fifties.
[3:45] Back then the with this major storm hit cuz the carrington one is the one a like largest reported once and it telegraph lines were especially vulnerable to it so they would pick up the current,
and i was just so much electricity in the atmosphere the lines are picking up that literally can’t send telegrams across the country.
Yeah and not use about you normally of the battery of its a its just like no battery needed because it’s is this giant metal core so it’s is picking up all this electric,
it’s tesla’s dream all this electricity in the sky empowering everything,
i until it blow stuff up right so i silently basically they have the battery is connected there was like a lightning bolt it like jetted out of like one like op phone operators.
Four head and my heart into like the florida like it was insane so there is a ghost someone the stuff for a little while it is kinda chill out yet power surges really bad gas but the all tiny batteries and stuff and the in.
You know the tune of the kinda knew what was going on cuz richard c caring ten is the british astronomer for spot and it because it was facing quarts,
in line when it first or the earth was when it first started so he that’s why it’s name the character event is that he was the first one that,
the spot it yeah actually cuz he had a special son telescope and the diagram golf so all walls are grown ass wasn’t that so we know surprisingly for the time a lot about.
[5:10] Incident craft you look like you say something no i keep hearing something transfer yeah week say you.
[5:18] Baby it’s me better of hearing it rn.
As of right now just so used to it hard it’s it’s is the mice in the walls just hear your home and i gotta get my ass or later can keep lying about me and him but okay so.
Here’s that the reason i wanna talk about this vent because it i mean it’s just a quirky footnote in history except for the fact.
[5:43] You know that’s the eighteen hundreds.
Telegraph lines are like the only technology round traits there’s a whole lot of doom saying out there about if of an event like this were hit today kinda like it honestly what about you.
I am with yours i don’t wanna die at lake you die would you think are as a deep thinker step is grounded enough though that it wouldn’t completely the friday i think that maybe we would just not be able to use our devices.
Well what it would do specifically is that it would blow transformers yeah especially all over like the ne i stay to fit right.
And so it would cost like a major blackout and transformers are expensive and complex all bills so,
i like the document i sent you guys from laurie’s,
where they did like a very in depth analysis of our past power failure some of the caring to vent the carrington event itself and then like the cost of eggs insurance company for like yeah plan for an.
[6:46] They sent that made me figure that if any number of it even slightly significant number of transformers were damaged the power outage could be like five months of.
So no power for five months so now you’re like we could do with that is just just can’t use your cell phones,
but it’s more than that you could there be no lights there be no all i have a little bit lag when i play fortnight,
just a bit ago five of leg just right down step
forward shoes to the left just put it in an envelope and become like the old like typewriter but dos versions of games yes so enter at idle
i don’t want it to happen it’s probably going to happen but it’d be interesting to see how,
it’s basically how we all adapt and make try to continue with me in the majority what i do is electronic they say i think you go as well so there’s like no way,
i could i would even have a job emily have figure out different jobs any how would you know how would money work how would you go society operating mean in any part it would be you know as are the communication stuff is like okay we still have male.
[8:00] Even so communicator letters the popo you you could wipe the i wouldn’t be able to find the address of the electronic route.
Yeah about that was your cuz you who delivers your mail,
the post office did you drives with gasoline draws gas pumps that need electricity no ice in the room saying vehicles that have electric starters,
if i give you a hand written letter and set age deliver this to boise idaho falls is could you get it i would have.
[8:34] Yeah i would do it with several days that idea of who’s be very interesting.
Hey i need belts for terrify just because me and basically anybody.
Anybody on dialysis or anything medical all this to get ugly ever be super screw that in that aspect
get holes we’ve not the weak points were gonna be strong and we come out of those travis as i got whiskey a eugenics to a minimum jesus,
i didn’t but but know what a cat and then i mean that i could you know to get into the the week of the strongest like.
Ls you’ve got some gigantic food stores or lake giant plot of land with a bunch of arable soil and food.
Cuban food that i don’t know about we’re all like three days away so it’s is like.
Yeah we’d be the hot people in hospitals of would be the ones in trouble first but after about a week we’d all be pretty face screw to write races at lake.
[9:34] If you’re weird like plumbing systems year freshwater filters on is that near your water is all the liver by a,
electrical pumps that pump water up and the water tower in the next what creates your the smaller towns probably might be fine because maybe some of them are all converted to a trailer in electrical or whatever.
[9:55] What is it like something some super small towns are having like a bush a well pump on your lap while pump what powers the pump,
i have a main your annual income oh you’re talking about like a okay i don’t think there’s any towns that have a water system like it comes natural ordered but.
But you know i could imagine a few forms that still have that but i know farmers flick that site for a even a lot of the farms anymore date,
they have old wells they could bring back on line great but a lot of them are pumping in a lot of their water through like me to cut a pipe wireless of our pipeline that.
[10:33] Criminal let about how towns work to get a sim city italy your license they i mean.
Win big really really screwed like yes yes fortunately dizzy as know you might be in with me but you need be nice cuz i do have a pretty healthy food storage in my basement for like two years stored.
[10:54] But how long can we live on donuts,
well it’s not all doughnuts sugar me news yeast there’s very is offering grace no i do actually have good food storage plus there’s always like my whole fam is a heavy and like survival stuff and cases what yeah i know,
if so where the best places to get a water supply if something were to happen is actually hot water heaters get fifty ounces i guess i read that in a book.
And arm of the title of the book but basically they had a an atomic bomb went off in california and they had to figure out how to survive and that was one of the things that they did she is a hot water heater and the.
Main character in the book was really bummed out that the water is fully hot and not cold and refreshing because you know hot water heater.
Yes so film f i were there and read school all not even getting like some the traumatic event.
You are being seem to have a light cuz i remember reading different apocalyptic thing so sorry is like a played out like something from my weekly reader that had like,
play breaking london or something like some throw away the proper yeah all about it and.
[12:04] This like but humans but telling the same story over and over and over and over thousands here yeah.
[12:10] The one thing though that i think they get wrong it at a new we could do a whole episode about apocalyptic scenarios that post apocalyptic dystopian stuff but.
You know what crack does a really good job of like analyzing and services like the look of societies where it like that of horrible broke down and like actually know what the mad max thing doesn’t happen because people are.
Believe it or not people aren’t monsters great what happens is your familial ties in your neighborhood and stuff like that cake and so like.
The example they use were like venezuela and egypt’s during that revolution while like three years where there’s a total breakdown of law and order like each neighborhood kind of like cordoned off its boundaries and this is the local man from the neighborhood
it’s rifles were like.
You know guarding me working like tonight watching some cats that neighborhood and the people still working iced and that you don’t like that’s what human beings do it’s just pray.
Now it would break down all much smaller lower local smaller level rates yes yes.
But yeah the the electricity thing in north america i mean it would be.
[13:18] Ight be bad cause that’s the thing i was for about like the transformer shortages stuff word be like there people i’ve heard say it be like two years to get all the power is.
And like the lights did he like the financial on it that just for totally billions and trillions of dollars yeah yeah so getting into like an example of a past.
Very similar scenario were much smaller.
[13:43] Event in two thousand three hit the united states this is the example of the lloyds article used to talk about of ends of it,
so in august fourteenth of two thousand three hundred c on large swath of the northeastern united states and south eastern canada.
The blackout affected the state of new york new jersey pennsylvania connecticut vermont ohio massachusetts about fifty million people were without electricity.
What’s funny is i was camping when this happened and we were all sitting around the camper but it was like a really nice electrical camper with kick out and can he is of like that and just like and we world to sit there like eating are like indian tacos or whatever rsvp for sharing food week may.
Watching on the tv is like people walking home across the brooklyn bridge because.
You stupid gridlock going to get in manhattan that’s of like so how crazy would have been like if you’re in that scenario and like just camping around no electricity they can convey happen you go back home like.
What’s going on and who i just come back to nothing yeah and.
I need a button that says this line for me we could do hold ups are about a whole episode about people that.
[14:55] Out of the loop on like kinds of the was much more common you know back in the day but i remember.
Like one like mount manner person in alaska that like the only comes down once every ten years or something like that,
i remember a two thousand nine when he came down for supplies and found out about like nine elevenths of jesus you know in like one that he will do an episode on down the road is the,
yes um a japanese veterans that were on islands that didn’t know and didn’t believe that japan had surrendered,
i’ll hit fighting world war two through like the sixties and would like to support local or hostage are killing recently supplies of it so yeah you have this handful of japanese scanner of these little island specific cut off from all info.
[15:39] Would fight fight fight and kill for.
Full moon from world war to say it’s like the sixties and even i think the last one was like in the seventies and now.
How can i be what is that not a tourist what i was sure it was messed up about it though was from what i know at least one of them were.
The japanese government even brought in like so it was like is commanding officer form and two are like the next one in line cuz obviously as commanding officer was within one died yeah but.
[16:10] You know it was like people you would know from the military be like you need to come out you know we’ve surrendered bob off,
the brought out like is family like it’s son who was now fully grown in stuff like that came out the speaker out the jungle like looking for him in.
[16:24] He just figured this like no other prisoners of the americans now and they’ve been brainwashed what’s up ladies rambo status was basically like first line yeah yeah i’ll.
Like i said we could do a whole episode of low rank it alone things.
Amanda sounder for you from now on and ima come next episode of sounder next chapters every time you say we get a little episode.
Absolutely so let’s see.
I think the one thing that i like most about talking about the carrington event is how many people never knew these things existed like the solar flares and now the social media suppressive people like freak out about them.
It’s like to these been happening for everybody a whole pack of people that think it can’t happen because they think it’s all sciences really cuz is i feel like well yeah there is that is alive will it to act.
Um it’s just like the thing with the internet and this year is that it takes ideas that are attractive with other good ideas are bad ideas and whole communities build up around it there’s no societal like pressure to lake.
[17:35] You know like like an nurse tanya is right it sucks that it’s like on the one hand it really liberated helped alot of different groups lia,
that you know where we’re really pressed or repressed or look down upon while at the same time.
It also lets you know the lack of community work that take it to far yeah and there’s no late voice of reason amongst them because they’re all wackos yeah there’s no appealing to authority anymore because everybody’s on an equal footing as far as data yeah information yeah.
It’s kinda funny but not.
And it’s like a terrifying black beer dystopia kind of thing and but he hears lloyds quote here on the rest of a solar storm for.
[18:21] Like a future carrington event.
[18:23] The total us population and at risk of an extended power outage from a carrington level storm is between twenty to forty million.
The generations with generations of sixteen days to one to two years the duration of the outer just will largely depend on the availability availability of spare replacement transformers,
if new transformers need to be ordered the lead time will likely be a minimum of five months.
The total economic cost for such a scenario is estimated at between point six,
and two point six trillion us dollars i have problem with that number.
I think they should a said between six billion to two point six trillion dollars no billion is too low.
[19:11] Point six is billy and so that be six hundred billion.
[19:17] Yeah so states of the nations and he doesn’t math so they just wanted to stick with that.
My dad lives in sa ration them even said anything to your mom i think.
My favorite part of this not my favorite ima claim i’m really worried about this whole thing i think it’s the new exciting i really do,
just because it is so interesting but you you’re like the people who are who like when the purge was it from into the purge universe would just like,
alright alright alright let’s happy but a lot i guess though one of them was the one that happened in two thousand twelve and it was a caring can level of and that was that was going to hit earth,
except it missed us by like i think was like seven days or nine days or guess about that what a measurement of lake arrow.
They are sweet yeah make a distance from earth with your soul i thought that was really fascinating that we were that close to having a caring to level of n two thousand twelve but it never even hess so i fit i think that just purveyor.
[20:26] Furthers the down.
The myth about it like that we only and think that this could happen because eighteen fifty ml of vacuum does anybody live in a female like they can’t tell us yellowed how are we gonna,
know for sure we’re basically their grand going other great great grandkids and yeah we’re reading a story is nothing and it’s bullshit that crazy they don’t know their talking about people are so dumb eighteen fifty nine and then you know but sounds like no you guys this
this could legit happen eric said bullshit you know but then it it could have happened in two thousand twelve.
But now it’s like back on a different cycle i guess that was the thing but every hundred fifty years is that what a big event can happen is that kinda how the.
The lake forecast is it’s and it’s geologic kind of stuff which means that.
But in a geology professor one time was like whatever they’re predicting like earthquakes volcano eruptions or something like that he’s always like it was given estimate and he’s like it when its geology,
always at plus or minus one million years this is so is so when they though they didn’t say that this report right when they’re saying that one of these events can happen around.
Once every hundred and fifty years are so right or a hundred years are some of them were saying it’s like when you put my geology professor just like.
[21:45] We’ve been like yeah pilot because we’re looking at like the history of the solar system by there’s like huge variation in every hundred years kind of ray thing.
The and you know it just like one little decimal point to variation that seems you know minuscule in the geologic terms could be like.
The entire history of western civilization is this little point two if all he have a.
Yeah so i just thought that was a super bass needed that because it missed us so bad people probably that’s logo it and its never gonna happen or it didn’t happen you know they means like no he’s gonna take it as seriously as they should,
and in my research i did find at least one you tube or who were.
Is super convinced that of the caring ten lie that the carrington event is not really a thing that happened.
And he had this dictionary from eighteen sixties.
That didn’t mention the solar storm and so that was his like primary source that.
[22:46] It’s like well they didn’t mention it so it’s like so clearly is is the thing that they’ve made up recently.
Try trophy for the peas or something like that i will literally has had an encyclopedia that was written in like the nineteen sixties and according to my encyclopaedia.
Jfk was still live and so was martin luther king jr sellers lake,
i have really hard time doing book reports not like i live my life according to that particular one you now then my whole world be rocky knoll true so i mean if he’s just going up to something published and,
you’re eating sixty yell well it happened in eighteen fifty nine el,
hey kitchen took a lot longer logic is really really dumb as for the album.
[23:30] And then is like we’ll maybe there aren’t that many primary sources but no in about two seconds is like,
oh here’s the like actual clipping from the new york times re heat from you know like the day it happened and report all the country and it and it’s not like it’s just the us and it’s not like
so like a conspiracy theory would have to use all of the us and england who but didn’t like each other at the time radio that they were both like in cahoots is like.
Yeah yeah who is printer unable first no okay so we’re good he’s gotta be real that is in
yeah thank goodness is that something we should always cover this show is like did this thing get released a promo going to and yeah fs level sorrell especially this chapter of the summer easter gm really annoying and pisses been
five been a pickup and a,
emily is being controlled by the store in like as like talking about we realize that the huge folks ninety five in got your that will happen individually in the researching and stuff hopefully it might be we pull the.
[24:33] Know if i hit that i don’t think it pull the topic i wanna tell the story of that’s click one thing and it was yeah well that’s absolutely goddamn it the.
[24:44] There may sitting topic so continuing with gallons of solar storms what what do you guys think and mean.
[24:54] Set on it you see error using to be a pain of the opinion that.
Yeah that would be that big of a deal nobody really used it i just wanna see like how is not me,
that would be me i know i would suffer i would absolutely suffer as i it really love air conditioning and ice if it happened during the summer have you so pissed,
believe winter time and like i think i can handle it be in ways but be using genuinely concerned about me what ima like be that bad because they,
honey no laying in gonna be so bad people are going to die and was like yeah like how bad will it enters exit a coworker that.
There’s talk about this topic with and he was very like.
No we almost had one in twenty coffees actually the one that put me on to the weights and.
[25:50] You know he’s just like now they have the near missing twenty twelve and it did direct hit this one to satellite or whatever it or buy it and it had like nine like bugs are errors in it for a little bit but then it bounced back it was always okay yeah.
And so he is argument is that if it did happen if the current events that happened merciless storm of that size.
[26:12] It become like it was a power outage for like four hours in new york today or something you know i called be a very like,
a brown out yet be more like cats yeah i was in the accident scene that i suppose that’s probably just as likely if not more likely that it’ll be like.
[26:28] If it does happen to be more like a mild inconvenience or like rates isolated regional thing and lois paper really got some fascinating stuff about like
the different soils in north america lol are yeah and how that affects a solar storm white lady impacts year how impacts.
You know what’s happening on the ground and talked about those ne is particularly vulnerable because of it so real combined with the fact that it’s coastal
share and so it’s like between those two factors are lock and activities pray air plus it has the all this transformers north america that’s why they think its,
the balls fuller region so i transformers for a second.
In millville re not that train rochell missed calls and interactions as you sell
so there’s have your house transformers we need haley time order of a minimum of five months that okay but if the majority of the of the of the public is employed via electronics you know bait busily do all of our business
yeah electronically now so basically we’re unemployed we’re now employee will people who could be working on the transformers and therefore maybe speed up production time with the youth,
amanda it would work the exact opposite.
[27:45] Sir like you can’t display due to build a transformer to build a transformer to live in new.
Which manual people okay so you have the building transformers for twenty some years you bring in a class of people.
The train then get kinda like rough cast on the do we out the idiots and then you put those people to work but that’s how i have a mansion this would like.
I live in a utopia so that
what time you nations production why i why why could some people be unplayable to buster building new transformers really bring some people on
the higher the while or nerves are hiring senior,
you’re a civilian conservation score model worse like it doesn’t take all this programmers and everyone out of the
office buildings are empty out well be in the streets or in our cars and transformers why i.
[28:46] I think that would be an excellent solution and that we should archer training on how to build transformers i meant.
I’m cool i will learn how to do tricks or treats you the save the human that you and.
I’m excited seems to be a comic book.
Is preparing genesee like world i’m trying to think what percentage of people like actually just know how to build a transformer leg.
The people who built transformers first start there.
Bosses probably a can i people may be the like are around them like spouses and kids or whatever because they hear about,
how transforms are potentially build the company page about your job for a new to think so until put the thing in the thing and that didn’t work and not hurting bro i could do that
what were gonna hire you in a sentence of eight you know you probably have a rough idea what your parents did for a living in media little that are like how did you some other things other guy.
[29:47] Any of really like light idea what is love like everyday my life and i can make one i know a lot about it but i could make one you just figure it out.
Tell me the latest news since it’s not just like figuring out how to make the transformer you need like.
A journeyman machinist so like create the metal and the rare earth,
you know materials have to be shipped in from where ever those geisha hypothesize and you absolutely know i missed your i know transformers yeah,
contain rare earth metals okay okay affect their yeah i know crazy that needs yup i do know that it would require a lot of metal machining,
and heavy industrial fabricating and stuff like that i which are not things you can just sit someone down there for a keyboard and machine and have them pop bottle that’s like.
Get all there’s as much are,
is there is that i totally believe it to metal work i’m still optimistic that i think we can work out something oh i think we work and i just think that
i’m with lois that would just like it would be pretty catastrophic and you have lol yeah trillions of damage and it’s,
i i don’t i don’t see a caring ten events ending civilization,
you know me no not by a long shot no definitely not just with soc and would kill people if if would kill and people fishing laughing i said they will it with killing people on that say no that was more like.
[31:17] Demented legs mall ask you to choose that i think i and ah i’m i’m hopelessly optimistic about a lot of things so low i like the optimism guess.
I think you’d be more efficient if each person just.
[31:36] Makes their own solar power wind energy and trying to actually build yes i totally think so too.
[31:44] Yeah and that’s one of the things that down the road,
as are you know if our power grades were to become more decentralized would be much less vulnerable to this so was things i’m wondering oak okay so like electrical grids everything win the cancun of happened.
Like the quality of wire essentially those pro like just a thick gauge copper wire yes likely so wonder.
Like i don’t really know in about wire likes for details and current smallest of how much water age revolted went through those cables compared to wire and we have now with a thicker wire hold up better which is in what would.
But with the amount of wire also compensate for that and kind of distance it the amount of power going through is that way doesn’t affected as much.
You have to think about that the mantel might how much that the metal connect to the great white you can handle as it is a telephone telegraph wire.
Back in the old days would be a thick them number wire yeah more than it needed to be cuz back then copper was innocent quite as expensive and rare as it is right now and.
[32:54] Yeah and it seems to be it seems to be bigger things are more vulnerable so that’s why.
In the northeast that there’s lots of transmissions lol transmission lines yeah it between transformers and substations and stuff like that and this actual sources of electricity.
And so those large lines seem to be wide what would pick up.
Ooh okay trapped what are you laughing about old i tried holding both this is pri pri recording,
we’re talking about the chicken sale above singly but the thumb on the overhead at the demon voice when you through at the bubble that’s what i heard i feel like this is what like demonic on telling me about these transformers and the cables.
[33:41] Someone over transformer it’s like it is a git me.
In men or them but i got that out because five thousand out of trying not crackable having on the mike but you better now holes in teens i’m good no medical.
[34:00] I’m getting sick i feel like we need to print up some volunteer for the transformer core teachers yes have a picture of like a cartoon transformer with a smiley face yeah i get a little fallout eh yeah aloe inspired nine.
Guess filing their illustrate exactly is the grunge effect will be totally different and you’d in reverse.
[34:22] Stop giving away my secret of,
what’s funny because of the very beginning we read it will open quote talking about how the sun with dejected these flares and also the stuff from the amis your can protect us started suddenly job for space force honestly likely that count as from this.
That’s not it but that wouldn’t even be there job,
you don’t know what is like gone space and like i would like to get a sheet metal shields yeah was gonna shoot the sun while skeet shooting in stops,
yes until it gets rida right gonna be a combination of leg that big dome from the simpsons movie and like,
roman soldiers with the big shield there are any floating out there jet packs creating one big,
aluminum she which is more freight because they don’t actually of oxygen mask is a dress like roman soldier so now all available much of dead bodies floating independently with little legs how jillian like cup coming in on that bullshit is that enough
what are these people about what you think of dope the cape is gonna look though with no crab legs him in flown so majestically.
Will be kinda conflict and there’s a whole thing with the flag that they put on the moon and like white waves and waves of the wire in it to like all that up and stuff like that keeps behave very strangely and in a vacuum.
[35:45] Anyway fasten the yeah yeah we’re not the source so here to talk about,
where we did not sow violence which was survival supplies they suggest or share ira so you’re here are some survival tips from the man and the internet,
on things that you know you should never have for any kind of emergency but especially like carry to events taking urgency.
So flashlights which are called torches fire friends over the uk.
[36:15] Hello there’s no and in the book the be like the brother torches closer was like these people live got in flashlights,
get the torch batteries what’s your tortuga better oh gas i have always like that also i totally at.
A good supply fresh batteries candles long burning ones in glass.
Lighters or matches propane or kerosene lanterns with fuel fuel for your generator if you have one cat land has to say.
To the listed have generator as fuel for generator has a step nine is to be like next we’re gonna go take the general sees your neighbors got dark okay soul when we had that ice storm back in two thousand
well for two thousand thirteen and.
[37:06] The re hiring of the tennessee st paul’s print was effective pretty badly will our area we were without power for like five days,
and there was some asshole and i have no problem saying is there some asshole in our neighborhood who had generator and was clearly powering his house do the generator.
This son of a bitch has bucking christmas lights on.
Is there any word.
You’re late you are so slight,
first of all it is april and your christmas look it on in
apr of half of the baby jesus fuck group of those who are losing our from you yes we had an ice storm in april,
if they do we can million like a really bad bike storm in april and this one has like a just a masseuse firm it knocked out from the tree the power in that are there in his.
[38:09] Neighbor of mine was like running his cracking christmas lights for his goddamn generator,
all day and all night sister about how you got your generator by using that neighbor all that yes so it was like the curtain take that motivated us to get our own generator of course we got it.
After we got our power back radio just in case but with actually used on sets and stuff since then,
oh nice gas so that kind handy cut to admit that guy i wanted to like,
he’s moved out since but is it like the man why sink to this level outside because he can’t miracle right it would make sense if he was using it laid in his house for like light,
lighting panel of
yeah like not is look up to the blade that like outside for decorative purposes lady are you trying to prove here will it kinda during the same ice storm i was actually at grand falls casino that’s rose working he
and it’s kinda in the maintenance department and is always interesting driving there because rena that little town in between here and what they say they they had power for like three weeks,
those years after that long but the casinos actually ran by a generator that they have and it went through about six hundred.
Things like six hundred gallons of diesel every three days she sees us as a three gallon tank that come fill about every other day day and a half yet like that.
[39:34] But we stay open for,
people and am again stanley if you shouldn’t have to casino how much juice you guys are be saving yeah i really like the pools over and the hot but i still hundred is so i know where i’m going in the,
yeah grandpa because actually grand falls,
is running its own grated to sell standard to have their own water purification their own geothermal young.
[39:59] Based the will what a crap they could still operate fully functional nice i work at a place like that yep that’s prickly functional yeah and even had lake,
chick fillet and he’s a women all is like the like restaurants inside inside this office building on a mcdonald’s.
But yeah that’s you me a starbucks in the us dentist office doctors office and mean it was it was yeah it was intense.
[40:24] So yeah so generator engine as you earlier and then water,
keeping at least five gallons of the container like in your garage or like you guys were talking about the water heater to think my family is set was like
get a feel your bathtubs as soon as the power goes out or in the make a huge like water bladder for that that fits specifically intel that you can fill.
[40:50] From what i hear no lol just from the lines little keeping her for a while for it for awhile you’ll have water because it pump how it maintains it is it puts it up and water tower that puts it down so.
Basically use it while you got it first cursor it rains exactly,
what you this early wrote on the document i keep it was five gallons in a container in the garage that you were that pima.
That was the mind is mixed list of email and then other stuff if only it as an excuse this stop me.
How is that people order micromanagement read yourself the hallway that’s all you have to leave as curious and i’m on your freely were married,
so okay so the next thing is battery powered real we’ve talked about batteries a couple times,
well the solar flare being sexually wireless would it not affect batteries and the lady are not.
[41:46] Hear me on this yeah theoretically they’re not big enough to.
Conduct okay that the actual like radio waves at the radio to actually create the
like in the air current guys that’s why the transformer lines are the big threat is because the surf like a lightning rod yeah like giant lightning rod got his phone lines work that cell phone actual telephone lines work.
[42:16] Where are we graph lines alam bait graph plans were working then have to battery power every thing now it is lionel were land lines,
pree everyone switching them to digital in the last two years gas,
now no shoes that’ll do he get ahold of anybody i wanted to cuz that we as slim yeah of the stars as their address i have a land line but it but yeah it when their land line.
At some distribution center that’s like with them in the main hall,
it’s probably gets converted to digital now yes that’s the way a lot of them of phone actually not because my husbands grandparents were forced by the phone company,
to change their type of phone because they were switching to dissolve and they flat out refuse to buy it,
phone that was compatible with the phone company so the phone company gave them of what it’s like for the love of god gas so.
While the from the heart rate going to force us to buy a new phone but they’re old so whatever.
[43:21] Does the ex we got canned and dry food for enough for several days at least which like a sees the bare minimum,
and i think a week is like a healthy normal like what human being keeps on the floor for about like three months worth of and was your in a place with harsh winters like my grandparents in of hat like food stocked up for.
For months and months and their seller and stuff like that and my parents would have like a good food stash ins are not stash but freezers will suffer mike still do a cat fact half of the times to live like a freezer full of beef.
Yes they’re gonna eat real quick or no if it if it’s in the winter time they give to call good call.
[44:05] And then they can just pick up several smoke houses and stuff so they could like smoking preserve a lot of it there’s actually a way you can can meet were freezes its own juices and then it’ll last for like six to eight months just on a shelf.
I believe that so let’s see.
[44:24] Set we can hole up at home food for your pets are other animals can think about those fur babies it if you put your candle or lantern in front of a mirror.
You almost double the light you get from is it bad that as soon as i saw that what my brain was thinking he put the cannon for the mere
that’s how you can summon bloody mary and noelle different episode accents funny cuz i saw that lands at all that’s exactly what i did when we had a storm goes by have a little nears i like put the candles on top of the mirrors and dominic was like a lake,
yeah again that’s how light works weirdo like going to reflect officer this.
[45:02] So yeah that’s that’s all i’ve got on the carrington event but i was stink this is an interesting one cuz there’s no,
there’s no leaks i fight her normal to this this is a thing that happened gas and a thing that can happen again so so do you know or has there been anything documented about.
A person physically feeling the effects of a solar flare like that nope.
[45:29] You don’t that that if you were just a human and how many tack or anything around the thing you’re gonna notice is really spectacular aurora borealis all over the earth and like.
In the crater lake in the tropics will see aurora borealis and you know the kind words that come in i wanna see the and then.
[45:48] You know here comes the now dystopia is not a test of and yeah.
[45:55] Something that cuz like they said that you know there in like new york and they can,
or is there profits in the new york times for the report was from boston that they could sit outside at one am and re read a newspaper home her was like are summers here,
when i am another account to that some of the birds actually woke up and some guy was like bad about the birds being of so he shot and killed a couple all because he didn’t want them jerking because his friend asleep or whatever.
[46:24] And its newspaper worded unfortunately when you have birds but not the monitor when i switch up kittens lol actually care of all those cunts reading name lemon is leave out the fact there birds hell now
look i think they would,
our workers like a bird i think that’s what the article said p stocking tinted don’t make it home the caption on the leaves is pete docking ten stocks to.
Oh yeah so howard howard system cool that’s a cool event yeah we keeping like
so that’s cool where were very late fans like sew the millions dead and trillions of dollars in damage is cool what’s what adds to what does money matter at that point in time because of like the previous like
yeah spend at least and the free f hopefully so that’s cool that’s my only hope is in a.
I’m just like please just knew the student loans and pay down those so what is this i’m sure you can answer this to twelve questions that probably nobody can answer.
[47:28] What is the speed of a solar storm like.
[47:31] If somebody is physically watching for all times how long would he and the heads up that we have it varies from.
The fastest it’s going to be is we will have like.
[47:45] Eight to ten min warning and that’s it nothing ham.
Cuz it takes eight minutes for daylight travel from the earth the sun so that the really powerful really fast.
Traction will send it can vary anywhere between that and forty five minutes okay so in eight minutes to unplugged all of your stuff so doesn’t get damaged cheese is.
Then if it’s that was there not even in a warm up and all of these did you manually try to get that warning you could it would you lily could i get out battery know what about you really like this is.
[48:22] And if they have eulogy cut off your and and i don’t know cuz like phone services are pretty good about warning about stuff like that was,
turn on the missile warning that was fake that people got over their phones not yo lie and her in like gas when emergency broadcast system but they still electricity.
Right but they have rent and the season backups to the emergency broadcast is rated if stuff is really be taken out of the source and the communication wires and it has a cut out yet,
but you know what can happen right at the message and have them in my pocket right so some most people might get that message over their cell phones today and then you now but i think the politics and how people are so,
play in the air we get caught up in the politics of it and nobody would get the message because every light will still not like you that like just do you know it,
i do not have a lot of confidence in the unity of international unity right now to come together on something like this up just like.
This is not have any natural disasters or anything for that see the next flight.
[49:28] Three years or so that be really great blog while i can be like oh yeah had notification what was that.
Oh yea powers out you got a brick what ever correct will see idle.
I think it was but i don’t know for sure because it’s can like a battery is where it’s like so small in receiver energy from ray church so we need to buy a whole bunch of like mobile charging devices.
[49:56] Those who communicate with why you leave your name and i go crazy.
[50:01] That’s true that’s true yeah and i don’t know wonder know he would have cell service salmon and when he put up a wife icing off your phone that’s
well how much weed america bands together to create a chain of live in so how often
nothing is it like during like a power out is it like you try to use your device and i go on the inner summer do do something that requires electricity like son of a
bitch why you niggas like you does go through natural hose window and the power goes out when my tv kick settlement always go lab job a lawyer and that’s down still doesn’t do anything for me that’s like seals be three days to a week,
somebody gets forcibly unplugged that they start their yeah not miss it and be like,
we got a it like experience my real life again and stuff right.
[50:54] But i got it i hope nothing comes along and forces us to experience real life cuz i really like my air conditioning in
all my games on steam and my podcasts and yeah so uncomfortable or mad but i really do wanna be put into a survival situation kennedy to.
[51:11] Two too much astray i’ve read too much astray it back okay enjoy that shit i got your back oh i can get my back on it i do don’t let money,
being like of real estate and being like no it’s not gonna be pretty no way that’s gonna be terrifying make you think that i wouldn’t know what i was doing what his email is about what i’ve been rolling,
but i know enough to be shit leslie terrified of it let sprint buy that’s actually is really scary thing here and.
[51:42] Truthfully there’s a really cool tv show use to watch where basely to the group of people and put them in a warehouse my downtown la colony
yeah that’s was a mri show i love that one of the things i learned from that blew my mind i could probably never recreate is when they be purified water off me to battery is always one as you like that it was that called like i can’t remember
what was batteries and then it was the base of it or cool yeah they put electrical charge to the water in a filter the water,
so it was like in icing were something mrs alice is married to.
Was something i on some yeah it was waters that kills all the microsoft stuff that it and the filtered it through like a gigantic thing to fight back of her car cold and other stuff and then work charcoal
set up a time to get to the bar it just purify water issues with me and it has drums they found in that warehouse equipment wasn’t amazing show really amazing show i think the period of like sciences to like just like survival people to like,
professor lee like this to come together and like the baseless commissioner and they do like a whole psychological explanation,
how late it takes so many days from being a snare to actually feel like to living it and how are things to people and it been in it for so long they feel like it has become that.
[53:03] Well i mean panicky but it was like really show where survivors like that where they give the missions one point,
they had we have moved the story thing having the baby they had at the nearest but it was clever the way they did it where,
like the brown in traders mall and stay but they have to figure out of they were traitors readers yes i have always trusted the guy open the gate of the men to be the jet.
[53:30] I watched one and that they got raided know their food storage is taking shed that’s right cuz the there’s one where they take their the ticket rated somebody punched a hole through the van yeah it’s
got out their food yeah because they went on scavenge in there’s like three people left that can do anything by themselves so they defaced will and take it
yeah because like days like these colonies were making like.
Primitive makeshift weapons like they made a flame thrower and like these actors who were the raiders were getting it attacks lately just as it was a really good show
yeah with that look on netflix or who early i usually check if it’s still on netflix it’s not on netflix anymore i usually watch it every new show called colony and it’s not the same in birmingham
but it was very good care of what originated off of was it it was like learning channel i think history or something some,
so it was that is discount was from the discovery family of at work that thing is amazing so def look that up,
yeah absolutely there is there one with the main does there was one series i watch called,
kids incorporated a thinker kids at usa are around it basically
keep nation isn’t you so basically what is a good tv show burnley you are yeah i was recently they brought all these kids together create the dreams was from seven was the youngest and i think.
[54:52] Well was the oldest and the perm all together in like this pioneer type colony,
and they were like we wanna see what it would be like if kids ran the world and as i always frequent the first day they got no instruction,
and the kid actually kinda like
okay like will make dinner with these that you know how do you know what i could you know how to cook and accounted aspirant question is if you are kids there who are the older ones that count rallying together and like
trying to get things figured out it as a homeless is really cool just to see like howell they would drop things names actually work really well but then of course you know
reality tv producers act available go don’t go through again wasn’t it controversial was so hunter version cuz yeah and it was just like the government always late tasks and competition that was the monetary western side,
the pain of the parents that having the kids live through this all yeah that’s you,
lol jacket survivor lawson’s a in order to yeah it was it was pretty i remember that.
[55:56] You know it’s like one it was ratings failed but to the second thing was like,
it got super expensive just from a legal and liability and like bad press standpoint that going,
but the one thing i just i don’t like that the whole point was that there was no money thinking of earthquake apis orders um i’ve and then find them the adult of course have to step in and it
when you move the story forward and never got system is like you a whole the whole point six mins and see how kids would run things when they need to make money with the not you know if however out,
as i can remember the first or second freakonomics book but if you ready to one of those,
there’s these gibbons or whatever that they studied cassette their social groups are a lot like humans celiac and any eight laboratory they introduced,
a money system that was like this is worth so many grapes on the top the eight sat and or that little given that and eventually,
it got to the point that.
[56:57] There was like pimping and prostitution and like organized crime and stuff like that like people
they were like people who were trying like scam the system insert giving humans that were ask him he got so incredibly complex that the f assists that monitor the study force them to stop.
[57:18] And so and then it and then that ended up being worse cuz i totally broke part a little given society and have like a devil of a time getting them to like reform any kind of social groups and stuff all over my god how big is a given.
And we were talking like little monkeys i think i should not would you do.
My whole whole person but then it is your ankle my dad never heard of it actually like one chapter three
that those books are amazing but that’s only like one chapter different way every chapters of story saying i need i need that plain white one one chapter is that this teacher that sits down in this,
with this administrator in boston and he’s just like you you cheated on your you know no kids left no child left behind tests.
You did really good cover enough but i if you don’t mind this professor from boston and here with the department of education i developed an algorithm that proves that.
[58:17] She yeah,
and that your numbers are not random all of this like very complex algorithm to rule out that clearly zr like a human being still these and
and i can prove it mathematically and your fire oh that’s all the like chapter two begins is without whole story yeah him and this calculus professor that like that came up with the system so that you can immediately look at test scores and.
And figure out if they were doctored at all or not lol without even knowing the students that’s incredible.
[58:52] Is it it’s freaking me this for so this is been macabre more shamelessly plugs for economics is,
yes an interesting chapter in the beginning it’s been so long since we’ve recorded
sorry listener’s get your five hundred l figured out from the whole like title of the house while i was good point there smart and what comes after seven and before nine yeah yes is a new merit saying yes,
yeah and there is not good is areas lots of,
yeah losses of any yeah so but we did graph i think we’re going to rapid and if you don’t hear from us on chapter nine happy came to new then yeah happy clearing filament,
who see around the verifier.